Chris & Mike discuss the first half (Ch.1-47) of Only the Dead by Jack Carr - the latest release in "The Terminal List" series featuring James Reece.
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Hey guys. I'm Chris and I'm Mike and
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welcome back to this week's No Limits.
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The Thriller podcast. How you doing today, Mike?
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Chris, I am doing great, but I got a question for you.
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And actually a question for all the people.
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I think we have to run a social media contest.
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We got a name. James Reese is Bookshop coffee
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shop, whiskey shop, and archery shop out in Montana.
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I couldn't stop trying to think what would this place be called?
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When he finally gets to open it Tomahawk Cafe?
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I don't know. It's the Winkler in the Winkler.
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And that's, that sounds like a really intriguing spot Bookshop
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coffee shop and you get some archery stuff too.
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Don't forget the whiskey and the whiskey whiskey tasting bar.
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Yes, yes. Dude, I'd be there every day.
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I'd move to Montana. Well, you can move to Montana
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for a multitude of reasons, so that's just another reason. so,
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I-i've been waiting guy, actually, this is a you know I
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don't often finish the books before you might get your one a
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faster reader to your faster listener than they but I was
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texting. You like Hage finish the book
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page finish the movement when we buy when we bought.
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We're actually we're botting two days later than we normally do
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because mr. Mr. Martini over there.
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Had to go to a concert and he was a little delayed on the
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reading, but I will say it was worth the wait.
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This novel, I'm so excited to talk to rest this novel.
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We are had a great time last week and if you hadn't gone to
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check out our part one pod, go check that out.
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Might be one of our best podcast.
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A, yeah, this one, we hope to live up to the part one, because
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it should we were going on part one.
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Everything from our breakdown of the book, our emotional
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reactions to, it are kind of pondering what's next.
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And what's going to come? I even I'm going to claim some
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points here, Chris. I'm claiming all the internet
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points. I Big prediction that paid off.
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I hope people don't take that as a spoiler from our part one
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because it played out almost exactly as I predicted with our
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man William Poe. But yeah I think we saw coming.
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I think a lot of people saw coming, I want to talk about
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that twist that turn there's so many things to get into and we
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kinda get a cliffhanger at the end.
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I don't think it's in. Yeah I don't think it's an in
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the blood level Cliffhanger but It's a real subtle little move
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actually two or three, really little subtle moves that I'm
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excited to talk about where Jack left us and what's going to
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come? Because this almost feels like
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the first three books, maybe were kind of a Trilogy or an
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arc. These three kind of felt a
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little bit that way. We got some closure here.
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Like you predicted, I'll share the internet points with you
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there but it was really smart. As Jack wrapped up some things
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to also open the door on others, and I think it was brilliant.
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Only done. Yeah, no.
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I said last week we need to get some clarity on things and you
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know boy didn't dig Lee. I think we were seeing that in
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the beginning, right? With the amount of exposition we
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were getting the amount of back story about his father.
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We were getting filling in more and more of the gaps.
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Yeah. And I think is perfectly like
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we're finishing these the second of the two, trilogies if you
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want to call it that, while turning a page to Reese's, next
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chapter, And I have so many questions, you know, how is
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Alice going to be involved? She's now back in the picture,
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like I was kind of disappointed we didn't we didn't get to
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really see Alice at all besides you know, a little little
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mentions and then at the very end the phone call but obviously
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that leaves us with You know, wanting more in the future.
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Yeah, I think he likes that character and he's gonna play a
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little bit more in that space, especially with the way that
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like AI has captured. The Zeitgeist, you know, don't
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judge EPT. Everyone is like oh just chat
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GPT that now like it's becoming the new you know, instead of
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Google it. You know, just is Chad gbt and
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and then, you know, this idea of the collective is still kind of
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looming, right? Yeah, hehe.
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Might have taken down one city. This is, I think we mentioned
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this last week to it's very bond-esque and like the idea of
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like Specter and this Shadow group Bond, taking them down,
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but you never eat. You know, it's kind of like
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hydrorite, you cut off one head, you're never, you never another
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one appears. So yeah.
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Where should we start first? Should we start with a little
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little review? Say in the form of a limerick?
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We could do a little review in the form of a limerick and And
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you're saying, you know, we got some closure on some things
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close your on a lot of old things, you know, we got Alice,
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we got Rafe, we got Vic, we got Andy, Dan, rub, we Tom Reiss so
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much in that storyline. But we've also introduced two
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new elements that I think made for a great story even if
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they're going to be more of a one-off that's Po and Stow I
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really liked how you know both Po and the stoves were handled
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and Martha. I think this is probably the
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only book we really hear about those characters.
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But I'm okay with that because they really told a nice concise
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story. It was like a little Arc that
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played out here. So I'll recap for you a little
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bit about what happened with our boy Poe.
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There once was a Trader named Poe playing the long game like a
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pro fooling Tom Reiss with James it'll cease but the collective
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continues to grow boom baby. You know with Poe and with
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Martha Stewart I think it's One of the I'm struggling to come up
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with words like describes, but Jack is developing as an author.
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We're seeing that him grow through these books and I think
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learning how to bring in a secondary character and fully
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develop them within one novel. And give us all their entire Arc
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is like a challenge. You know, you can see that like,
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sometimes people, you can see, like, they bring them in and
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then they're neither not finished with them or they
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didn't do. I love them enough, so they
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bring them back later on. But both of these characters are
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both of them died. The end units of, obviously,
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they're gone. But I felt like there was, we
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got everything we needed out of them and they were so well
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developed. You actually kind of like I
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began to like Poe and then I was like, yeah.
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But I get but I can see the foreshadowing about how he's,
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you know, most likely as soon as I heard those father with a
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shipbuilder and like care about money like that, that was
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sending up like, warning bells for me, like, you know, because
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they sort of Next opposed, who the collective was and how
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they're, you know, these Elites who had money interested with
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money, you know? But yeah I what do you agree
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with me that you think that his writing is growing 100%, I think
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bringing in Po and Stow going to keep calling him that bringing
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that in and creating that I think was a huge risk and his
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writing was definitely up to Snuff.
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He was able to do it, because the risk there is you can If
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people to say how have we never heard of these characters
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before, you could kind of Be Wondering Why was this not part
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of James's, background his life, his even his thoughts.
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Why is he not even mentioned? You know, when we're inside his
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mind, what he's thinking these major influences people?
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His father, you know, took him to, they, he grew up on the
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ranch, he grew up fly-fishing, he remembered the photos in his
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house. But that was okay for me because
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it helped land the aspect that he was playing Tom Reiss that
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whole time. He was directing Tom away from
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completing his real mission of uncovering the collective by
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dangling, this poww story. You know, he said it was a
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20-year wild goose, chase essentially, it was accurate and
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true but the collective didn't really care if Tom uncovered
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that, and then I said that last episode, I was like, I hope
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there's more because this pows story while Interesting, most
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likely, true and really important for someone like a Tom
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Reiss to uncover. And I want the truth of this is
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it that bombshell that's gonna make people hunt you down for
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generations and decades like and that the Russian government will
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want to suppress not really. And so that played off perfectly
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when Poe was using that as a distraction for Reese, we the
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audience were distracted by it thinking this can't be, you
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know, the Black Swan, the big event, the big reveal, And it
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turns out the collective had their tentacles much deeper in
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something and that's why Tom Reiss couldn't complete his
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mission. So I think he was handled real.
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Well then the stow's, putting them in the prologue.
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What a risk giving us the hint of Tom re saving Martha, and
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that's going to be a major pay off because she gives Reese a
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huge hint or a huge next step in uncovering.
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The end game again. Handled by a lesser author.
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I don't think it would have been as impactful.
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It would have seemed cheap may be superficial.
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And I'd be taken out of the story wondering, who are these
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people? Why are they just coming up now?
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But I didn't feel that at all because if we step back the
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context of this being the Tom re story, you know, we've been
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hearing about the key that he left for Reese, right in the car
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and the gun case and all these notes, and then in the last book
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particular in the blood were getting Tom talking to Reese.
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He's here he is. Ghost his Spectre.
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And the fact that all that was building, it was the perfect
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time to create a whole novel. That essentially is a Tom re
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story. I really think that's what this
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is and plugging in Poe and Stow was just a perfect way to tell
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that story hats off. I definitely see Jack growing as
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a writer. I don't know if devil's hand or
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in the blood things like that would have paid off as well or
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been handled as well but just his writing you know it's top
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class and and I don't know if I felt that over the last a few
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books and I definitely did hear. The growth is evident in so many
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elements of the story and its own its growth, their character
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development plot building and all that.
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But also growth on the action scenes, I didn't think Jackie
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get better at writing an action scene that keeps you on the edge
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of your seat and having insane kills for Reese and he might
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even top his best here, he just he goes all out on some of the
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action scenes. Do you think this is his best
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action riding since terminal list?
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I would say since Savage son, Luca because some of the hunter
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versus hunted Dynamics there and the Wilderness right II.
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Think that was really well done. I would say yes and I'm thinking
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back to like in the blood we had The Israel scene where he was
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with Alia sister and the kids and, you know, protecting them
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really cool action scene but I think he just absolutely tops
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that. So I'm going to say best and
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Savage Sun. I really think so.
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Yeah, he even mentions at the end of the book that he was
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inspired by the first Blood Rambo.
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Once he said that, at the very end, I could definitely see, you
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know, it coming out in it is action writing from the Bank
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seen to the sauna. This is the yacht, you know,
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like and then even even a little torture scenes that we get the
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one with the, the, the handc of the other hand comes with the
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zip tie gun. Oh God.
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Oh my gosh. Yeah.
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And just like, you know, the different ways.
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He uses the hatchet and knives weapons.
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This is to me, one of his best action writing of all time. 100%
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let me ask you then like you mentioned them all the bank
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scene which we loved and our last episode the sauna which we
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get here. I mean he's just laying guys in
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like the shower and the changing room to get.
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You gonna ditch the head of this bratva guy, who also has ties to
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the collective or the yacht the nuke.
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It was like Memorial Day again. He's on a boat.
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Trying to decide was nuke. I was getting Memorial.
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De Vibes definitely getting Memorial Day Vibes.
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But now you add a seals perspective because Mitch was
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never in the water and how Reese's using the water giving
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himself again, as Jacko. He says that tactical Advantage.
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He's like, you are the water James.
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Use the water. Oh my God!
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He handcuffs the guy to one of the chain links.
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He holy smokes. He uses the chick.
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The dead body and the extra breath in her lung to survive.
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Yeah. Yeah, we cow.
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So come on man. Like what was the best action
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scene? Because I thought the sauna was
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clearly when I read it going to be the best, I would have said,
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the bank seen when we read it last week on that episode.
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That would have been the best. But then everything he's doing
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in and out of the water on that yacht.
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I don't know how to, I don't know how to rank those ones.
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The action here is impeccable You know, it's got to be the odd
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scene and I'm going to tell you why I decided to get so we get
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to the point where he's taken, right?
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He gets tricked by Poe. Ultimately, we find out the
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winner group takes him, he falls asleep.
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He winds up on this boat and we're about still 30 chapters
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left, I guess, you know where there's a decent sized portion
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of the book left and I'm reading it.
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It. And because we already, we
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already have all the backstory that whole, like the nuke can't
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be stopped. And we already know what's going
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to happen and I'm reading it. I'm like, how the hell is James
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Reese gonna get out of this one right?
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You know, at least with, you know, with Mitch and the nuclei
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kind of could see, all right, they're tracking the nuke and
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they could stop it. But like, you know, we kind of
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didn't know the full extent, you know, the mitigation plans and
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whatever. This is up orbitrap Skylar me.
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I'm blanking on the villains name right now.
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But anyways, but because we got so much Exposition with the
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Russians, we know exactly that, you know, there's no failsafe.
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I'm like, what is going to happen in my mind.
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I'm like I was kind of doubting that Jack was going to be able
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to pull it off. I was like, we're going to get
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some bullshit, they contain yellow or they sink a boat.
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I don't know what what it was. But I was like, I'm already
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setting myself up to not be Stood to not to not have a
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payoff. Yeah.
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And I was wrong. I was wrong.
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I'm gonna call bullshit on myself.
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Like I was, I was completely wrong.
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And as soon as he takes out, you know, the one guy, dumped jumps
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into the water as a dead woman's body hanging on to him.
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And then from that point on it's like, go, go go and we're
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bringing in like, you know, his the conversations in his head,
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with his father and A nod to the pope.
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You know breathing sequence in from the prison, you know?
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Like, how those exercises save his life?
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Yeah, then we immediately get back on the boat.
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Meticulously takes out everyone. One by one and then he's like
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this creature in the night, using the water.
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Take me to. He's sure he's shoeless.
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Shirtless, you know, imagine just like the ruffle pants, you
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know like Rambo you know you. So you sold me, you recapping
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all that I forgot. How many elements are at play?
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I think I was leaning towards the sauna scene.
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The sauna scene is badass is badass, dude.
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But it's like it's pretty prototypical, James Reese, you
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know? Like that's that's what he's
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going to do and you can kind of see like, all right, this is
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this is what I'm going to do. But like there I'm like, what is
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what is going to happen? I don't know what's gonna happen
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and then he ends up shooting. Right?
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Doesn't he he ends up taking the one guy out here at runs.
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Oh no, we didn't get to the best part.
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He runs through glass jumps off the boat onto the dinghy.
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Oh yeah. And takes out the guy like he's
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I'm just getting ready. You are not getting away.
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I'm just imagining this scene like in in a movie him running
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through. Broken glass, Barefoot, jumping
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and landing on the boat. It's time the truth.
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Oh yeah, its Mission Impossible, 100%.
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It's such a Tom Cruise in Mission possible scene, it's
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insane. Dude, you sold me use that scene
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is just so elevated by all those things.
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And how do they get to this point?
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Was the payoff of that scene with Kira who is Dash cough
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secretary, right? Debating an old.
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What was it like 1970s or 1980s protocol?
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Her mom had to communicate with her Handler of liquid, a silver
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thumbtack Yeah. And then she used her own
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Thumbtack, which told Vic in the CIA that it was, you know,
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someone different, it wasn't her mom because she's dead, but it
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was actually her man and then all that intelligence leads to
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them doing the Cypress obtuse. Oh, oh my God.
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Yeah you win. I was going to say the sauna for
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two reasons, I guess we'll give him a shout out because I had
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that similar feeling. I was like, I don't know how
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Reese gets out of this. How many times does Jack done
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that, right? It's just gonna go.
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Now, there's no way Reese gets out of this.
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Someone else has to come save him and then know he improvises
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and when he improvises with The Rock, he uses one of the sauna
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Stones inside the to. Yeah.
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Oh and said that that was, that was pretty cool and he sling in
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the Rock in the towel at the guys.
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And then he slices a dude straight up from the nether
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regions through his stomach and sternum with the, I think he has
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the, the hatchet at that point. He literally just Flay's the
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dude in half, it's like some of the kills there were absolutely
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insane and then he fireman carries.
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You've gone of each other's shoulders.
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And Rafe is like, what the hell man?
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When he gets in the car? So you walk so much in there,
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he's in like Brooklyn, right? Like her the Bronx.
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I, where are they? There is some someone of the
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borough's now Manhattan, but like it was somewhere in New
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York. Yeah, I don't remember exactly.
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Yeah. Now the sauna scene and then
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like the the interrogation Post in sauna scene, sonicing is
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crazy to think with that zip tie, I had no idea like as he
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started, you know, zip tying his fingers and then his Illusions
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legs and his feet and it is appendage all the millions.
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That's what got him talking we did.
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Oh, one more thing about the Yahtzee, So after everything's
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done, even as to figure out, how am I going to hell?
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I'm going to stop this new and even that doesn't disappoint,
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you know, he gets back to the boat is able to make a phone
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call. And at this point you don't know
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who's the traitor. Right.
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You know that someone someone was a trainer to him and I'm
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thinking Vic, you know, like VIXX the only one who knew or
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someone in this obviously someone the CIA it's or and the
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first person, right? The first person he calls is Vic
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and fix like, what? I can't hear you.
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I can't you know and I'm like, right?
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He builds up more this expense. Exactly.
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And then finally is oh you cut out all your know, the phone,
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the phone died. Phones out, we had to find out
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that phone charger. Yeah, yeah.
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And then Andy Daniels like well We're not going to Defuse The
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Bomb and you're like, what the hell?
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But we can do something else. I'm like, oh, that's
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interesting. Take, I'm no one's ever said
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that in the million of different nuclear link, right?
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Bombs going off that I've seen it, but it makes perfect sense.
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Like those kind of things are, are precise, timing, you screw
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it up somehow and then I bet, I guess you.
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Do you have to my question that he didn't quite answer is a, do
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you have to set off? Your bomb at the exact same time
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or like right before the nuclear bomb, is about to go off, like
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how does that work? That was maybe a little Gray
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Zone because it seemed to me. They had to disrupt the
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sequence, the arming or detonation sequence.
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And so, like, the only thing the nuke is going to initiate
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detonation. But the only way to stop it is
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at the precise moment to not allow that detonation sequence
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to finish you actually below the hardware that Causes the
00:21:21
detonation impetus if you will or you know catalyst.
00:21:24
So I kind of had thought it would have to be this like
00:21:28
perfect precise timing and then it just seemed like well as long
00:21:32
as you blow up the nuke it can't do that detonation sequence
00:21:35
because he kind of just set a fire on the grill but he was
00:21:40
even saying when he was in the water and he's like I'm probably
00:21:43
just going to die here because this thing is going to go off.
00:21:46
I started the fire, it might explode, but it's probably not
00:21:49
timed perfectly. He really thought it was it like
00:21:51
he lost, but then the explosion happened and the new couldn't go
00:21:55
off. And so he's like, damn it
00:21:57
worked, did it work because it was just a coincidence and the
00:22:00
timing worked out properly or did it work?
00:22:03
Because you can disrupt the sequence.
00:22:05
Anytime you just blow up a nuke to stop a nuke, or was it a
00:22:08
coincidence that the exact second it detonated was when the
00:22:12
bleve happened? The bleve from the propane tank,
00:22:16
this is where, you know, we need like a physicist or an atomic.
00:22:20
I'm a physicist nuclear physicist to come on and explain
00:22:23
it. Like, this is accurate, but at
00:22:25
the same time, you know, it's by in its little bit suspension of
00:22:29
disbelief. And at that point I'm reading
00:22:30
and I'm like, this is fucking awesome.
00:22:32
I don't, you know, the cool, I don't care.
00:22:34
Yeah, you know, I liked I liked his idea better than like, You
00:22:40
know, driving it into the deepest part of the ocean and
00:22:42
letting you know, letting it, that's when I sit on it like
00:22:44
that, you know, that's, I thought it was going to be like,
00:22:48
oh, the movie that shall not be named America's acid where they
00:22:54
take, they because they kick America's.
00:22:56
Remember they combined American Assassin with Memorial Day,
00:22:59
essentially, right? You and he has to helicopter
00:23:02
thing in the out, into the middle of the ocean and and drop
00:23:05
it, and it just kills a bunch of fish.
00:23:08
Like we don't even talk about that.
00:23:09
Like that's what I thought they were going to do and there was
00:23:11
going to be some BS containment Zone that's like oh it really
00:23:14
was bad for the ocean but we set up a containment barrier and ya
00:23:18
know you didn't Anouk went off in the ocean, like shit's gonna
00:23:21
be messed up, well, not even the oceans to see, so, right near a
00:23:24
lot of countries that rely on seafood and fishing industry.
00:23:27
So I'm like is it gonna be a disaster?
00:23:30
You they're scared right. Your way out of this one but he
00:23:33
had a, he had a better planner. We should say Andy Dan rib, the
00:23:36
a leader Marie, I think it was a Marine attack.
00:23:39
Had a better plan. So it was really cool, really
00:23:43
cool character in the interim. I think we brought him up in,
00:23:47
which book the show before with it, Savage sun or no, hadn't
00:23:52
been them. I think it was average son, I
00:23:55
think he was definitely in. He was in a everything, I think
00:23:57
quite a bit because that's what the Russia one of the Russian
00:24:00
start to come in, I guess Savage Sun, after I had posed, True
00:24:03
Believer, Kamchatka Peninsula. Yeah, for real, right?
00:24:07
I think they bring him in to First figure out.
00:24:10
There was the one Russian guy doing something in Central
00:24:12
African Republic with mining operations, or whatever, and
00:24:15
they needed an expert or something like that, right,
00:24:19
dude? All of it.
00:24:21
Even a little thing like that, where we're a bit confused,
00:24:23
Infused on that. I'm not even a call that a
00:24:25
nitpick or a ding because it doesn't ding a single thing
00:24:28
about that scene. It flashes in your mind briefly,
00:24:32
you might have the hint of a question but you never fully ask
00:24:36
the question because it doesn't matter and it's so awesome.
00:24:39
I wasn't taken out of it, you know, wrecked like and now I'm
00:24:44
like, obviously we're discussing a little bit more here.
00:24:47
So I'm thinking about it more. But, you know, if I did never
00:24:51
went back to it I probably wouldn't have wouldn't.
00:24:53
Brought that point up. So well I think because like you
00:24:56
said we're still concerned about Vic because that phone call,
00:25:00
which we don't want to be, but the writing is telling us, we've
00:25:04
got to be aware trust, no one, his phone cuts out.
00:25:07
I thought he was just bullshitting reso Reese, I can't
00:25:10
hear you, and then hangs up as a way to not help him.
00:25:13
And then another one, there was a little line about they have
00:25:16
the documents. You know, Reese's wondering what
00:25:19
will happen after the explosion goes off if he fails and it's
00:25:22
like, well, at least Andean Vic took the documents to the CIA
00:25:25
headquarters. And I'm like, is that a good
00:25:27
thing because he's thinking, like, at least they have the
00:25:30
docks and I'm like, wait, but that could be a bad thing.
00:25:34
That means they're going to get covered.
00:25:35
If one of those guys is bad. There's a lot of little things
00:25:39
where a tiny little question of something that might take you
00:25:43
out of the story and you don't have time to entertain
00:25:46
everything is happening so well, and it's executed so fine.
00:25:51
And if anybody's going to nitpick scenes and books, you
00:25:54
know, it's me, you know, it's the thriller pod guys.
00:25:57
So the fact that I'm willing to let bygones be bygones, their
00:26:01
shows, Jackie wrote a killer action sequence One of the best
00:26:07
in the entire series. I mean it's up there.
00:26:09
It's definitely up there. Yes, it did.
00:26:12
You remember that? He had asked the guy at the bank
00:26:14
about a copier, because that whole time, that whole scene was
00:26:17
like, Peggy in the back of my mind and I owe 100, I was like,
00:26:21
I'm thinking, I first, I just thought he like sent a copy to
00:26:23
Dan read like that that. But then he physically took a
00:26:27
copy to him something. Alright, well, he honestly said
00:26:29
it to someone and I'm like, all right.
00:26:30
It's Insurance. You know in case in case these
00:26:33
hard ones get taken Then, you know what's, I'm going to have a
00:26:38
I have to have a back a back up and then we obviously it pays
00:26:42
off in the end where everything I didn't.
00:26:45
I didn't know he was going to pull the whole like I said, it
00:26:46
to every news organization in here it is.
00:26:49
But, you know, that was kind of cool and it paid off a typical
00:26:52
Trope. I think it's been done before.
00:26:53
But yeah, again, what elevates it for me is pose reaction, you
00:26:58
know, Poe was so smug, you're never going to stop the
00:27:00
collective, your documents are covered up.
00:27:03
The Russians are going to put an end to this.
00:27:05
For better cause the collective knows what's up.
00:27:09
And when re says that pose, just his facade drops, his demeanor
00:27:13
changes. And so I don't even care, you
00:27:16
know, you're teaching, you know, an old dog, new tricks or
00:27:18
whatever. It's like to watch pose reaction
00:27:21
in that moment. And the power Dynamic shift,
00:27:24
we're all the power was away from Reese even though he was
00:27:27
going to kill Po and he, um, he uncovered the truth about him.
00:27:30
He didn't have the power. I think the moment he told us
00:27:34
about the documents and the Off from geez, three-quarters of the
00:27:38
book ago, you know, when he's at the copy machine, that, that
00:27:42
pays off in that moment. And we see the power Dynamic
00:27:44
shift. And that's when po knows, not
00:27:48
that the collective is totally screwed.
00:27:50
Because post still gets his jab and of, you'll never stop the
00:27:53
collective. You know, it's Hydra like you
00:27:55
said, but the power Dynamic still shifted.
00:27:58
You knew Reese one, you know, he got the upper hand in that
00:28:01
moment and I love seeing that play out on post face.
00:28:05
Yeah, you know, this book, we've mentioned so many callbacks just
00:28:11
a quick one here, the Mossad, I loved the Mossad guy because
00:28:16
again, how does Reese get out of this?
00:28:19
He swims, as hard as he can to the coast near Tel Aviv washes
00:28:22
up on a beach, and he has just enough energy to, you know,
00:28:26
Mumble the name of one of his contacts in Mossad.
00:28:29
And we get a little call back to Alia which I really liked it in
00:28:33
the blood again. She was like a One-off
00:28:35
character, she dies in the freaking prologue, but a lot of
00:28:39
that book was about Reese past relationships with her and a
00:28:44
little bit, a few, we get a few flashback scenes and that's like
00:28:48
this, what it leads to him asking, you know what she tried
00:28:52
to recruit me. Right, exactly.
00:28:53
Exactly. And I like that, I like it.
00:28:55
We get a little closer there like you're saying this book is
00:28:57
one of Truth and Consequences. I think it fits the theme.
00:29:01
It's just a little nugget if you didn't read the last book or
00:29:04
you're not Up on the series, The Scene really means nothing to
00:29:08
you and you just move on but if you do know what it's
00:29:11
referencing their Reese was wondering, was Mossad trying to
00:29:15
recruiter was who he thought was his friend Ali, and was his
00:29:18
friend recruiting her, and it just is more evidence of.
00:29:21
This is the game. Once you're in the game, you're
00:29:23
in the game. Everything about your life is
00:29:26
going to be part of the game and Truth and Consequences, he
00:29:30
finally found out about that. And I really liked how that came
00:29:33
to a close. It didn't feel like an Revealed.
00:29:36
It felt like that was the time to put a bow on it and move on.
00:29:39
Yeah, I would create, I liked how, you know, we wrapped up the
00:29:45
new part of the story the climax but yet we still had a decent
00:29:50
amount of the story to deal with like interactions with Bo.
00:29:54
We kind of we had to do towards earlier interaction with the
00:29:57
president and Alice you know, interaction with Vic on the
00:30:02
Washington Mall setting up these Grow Cliffhangers.
00:30:08
If you want to call them that towards the end.
00:30:10
Oh, take down. Cash, cough.
00:30:12
Yeah, and the Lamborghini is, yeah.
00:30:14
We didn't even get into that. Yeah.
00:30:18
Like, yeah, they're still like so much of this book after the
00:30:21
climax of this book, you know? Like, when you think about it,
00:30:23
because he's like, he uses them aside to get back and see
00:30:28
attitude to fulfill his mission, you know, it's like, it's like
00:30:31
those scenes from, you know, Brad, Thor orbitrap or any Spy
00:30:35
novel where the epilogue is the scene where you claim, they go
00:30:40
and take them out. I remember like, in transfer of
00:30:42
power, like, you know, he goes down and takes out.
00:30:45
Refugees, refika zi. Zi is, I want to say Ali Ali
00:30:48
Nazar? But no, that's that's one of
00:30:50
James Reese has a right, exactly.
00:30:53
How do you feel though? Like, did you feel having that
00:30:56
as a drawn-out? I think it was still another
00:30:58
almost an hour in the audiobook even more after the nuke scene.
00:31:03
and like you said, I think the typical thing we're used to or
00:31:06
train to as a thriller reader, is an epilogue 515 Pages,
00:31:11
whatever, maybe But we kind of sat with it because we had that
00:31:16
chase at the Villa on Cyprus where he shows up and dash cams
00:31:20
room gets him but sokolov is able to escape who's the head of
00:31:24
the Wagner group and then he gets in the Ferrari though
00:31:28
school for any. Did you look up the picture of
00:31:30
that? Ferrari Dino?
00:31:31
That looks like know what was the name of it?
00:31:33
The specific. So it's a 1979, Ferrari GT GT s.
00:31:42
Yes. Yeah, 308.
00:31:46
It's like Chase down a Lambo. I think.
00:31:48
Is that it was at the car that like Knight Rider was?
00:31:50
I don't know, probably someone's screaming right now, the body as
00:31:54
it was he this but car enthusiasts?
00:31:57
Yeah. Like every time I butcher the
00:32:00
name of a weapon or gun. Yeah.
00:32:02
Exactly. But yeah.
00:32:04
Like this is one of the most iconic cars ever.
00:32:06
Like I knew exactly. Once I like Googled it, I was
00:32:09
like, oh, I know exactly what this car is.
00:32:11
Like I've seen it before. It's very classic, Ferrari
00:32:15
model, but the fact that he's going up against a brand new
00:32:21
Lamborghini that you can go. Wicked fast was pretty cool and
00:32:26
like he's able to use the no lights, the sound of the wind
00:32:31
the water. Because obviously they're both
00:32:32
riding top down. You know, he had one, she
00:32:36
literally had one shot at it, because if he didn't get it, he
00:32:38
knew that the lambo is going to outrun them.
00:32:39
Right? So, yeah, kind of cool.
00:32:42
I didn't mind the Fact that we had essentially an extended
00:32:45
epilogue, right? Because that's what it was.
00:32:48
I liked how, you know, like you said, we're closing the chapter
00:32:51
on on those things. And really all we have is, you
00:32:56
know, what, truly happens. The collective Is the president
00:33:00
involved with the collective because she made a phone call,
00:33:03
he was setting it up to make it seem like she wasn't, you know,
00:33:07
a part of it at all. You know, she's getting out, she
00:33:09
wants to work with him. She hasn't, she gave him this
00:33:10
proposition, which we don't, we don't even know what it is.
00:33:13
She sets him up with Alice but then she makes his phone call.
00:33:16
So it was she calling back, Alice was she calling someone
00:33:20
else? It was a different phone.
00:33:22
It was a different phone and it was a crypt always is a crypto
00:33:25
phone. And they specifically wanted an
00:33:28
update in a status report on Ray.
00:33:31
That's very, very suspicious, very fishy.
00:33:35
Yeah. And it's while the White House
00:33:37
recording this, the Oval Office recording equipment is off
00:33:41
because she said that with Reese that this conversation is not
00:33:44
recorded. And I thought okay well that's a
00:33:46
little trust Factor, right? She's kind of building some
00:33:48
trust with him a little Rapport but no, maybe it was because she
00:33:52
also wanted off for her phone call.
00:33:55
Yeah, how does you got this? President is on her way out.
00:33:59
And what is she going to do? Is she though?
00:34:02
I know she said that. Can we trust her though?
00:34:04
Yeah, I don't know. I trusted Christensen.
00:34:08
But he's gone. So and if she is dark, She
00:34:13
obviously wanted recent touch with Alice.
00:34:16
What does that mean if she's good and, and puts recent touch
00:34:19
with Alice? And that's that's great.
00:34:21
But if she's dark and want to Reese to know Alice is gonna be
00:34:24
there. Does that mean she co-opted
00:34:27
Alice and the claim you know that Alice Alice is quote,
00:34:30
unquote free, you know, but if she truly free will never be,
00:34:35
you know, that's going to be a very hard question to ask.
00:34:38
I don't know. A lot of a lot of cool things
00:34:41
that you can deal with. And then I like the final scene
00:34:46
with Poe, how he like comes and watches them for a couple days.
00:34:49
And even Oppo knew he was watching the entire time.
00:34:52
Just yeah. You know, this old spy master
00:34:55
who takes off his waiters and walks to the water.
00:34:59
I felt like For what he did to his dad Kana.
00:35:03
Let him off a little bit but I guess he's an old man.
00:35:06
So yeah. I mean, what's he gonna do slice
00:35:11
and dice them up? We already saw that.
00:35:12
You know, what's he going to do? Take out the hatchet on the
00:35:14
dude, I think it was the appropriate way for him to go.
00:35:18
It was almost a mutual understanding, makes it look
00:35:21
like an accident. Yeah.
00:35:22
Makes it look like an accident even said, you know, his body
00:35:25
was washed up. And the authority said, no foul
00:35:27
play. It was a fishing accident, so
00:35:29
right, right easier to deal with.
00:35:31
So it's easier to deal with. I think it was, it was the right
00:35:34
move. It was it was a tactical move,
00:35:36
but it was also just a poetic you know, Poetic Justice in a
00:35:39
sense. And plus they did have memories
00:35:42
together. Even though he was fooling Tom
00:35:44
Reiss, it's like they did fly fish together in that stream and
00:35:48
James grew up on that, you know, fella.
00:35:52
So the complex. So I feel like end, he gets the
00:35:56
dogs Castor and Pollux so quickly, gaining Reed's, got the
00:36:00
dogs. Yeah, the good little touch.
00:36:04
So I guess I have a couple questions for we getting the
00:36:07
scorecard. Oh, Unless thing I'm sorry, I
00:36:09
want to get your questions. There's another little loose
00:36:11
end. Maybe you call it a cliffhanger
00:36:14
and I might claim some internet points here as well.
00:36:18
Rafe goes to higher Max, the German assassin, I like that.
00:36:23
I like that. I like that because we like that
00:36:26
phone call that very Grisha Azeroth phone call where he
00:36:30
wanted to work with James. He didn't want to go toe-to-toe
00:36:32
with him. He didn't want to execute the
00:36:34
contract, and I like that Rafe and James picked up on that.
00:36:38
And realize maybe can be an ally instead of them having to be on
00:36:42
a collision course, right? Exactly like it.
00:36:46
Sorry, no, no, no, no. That's probably completely
00:36:49
again. Another thing that happens
00:36:50
because those nuclear bombs, he has assumed a lot going on.
00:36:55
Some of the bizarre, Exposition in the, I feel like we have to
00:36:58
have to bring it up. We do.
00:36:59
We do, I always say bizarre, I'm just like, some of the was
00:37:03
interesting. What was up with the whole
00:37:05
chapter on economics? Like learning about Futures
00:37:09
derivatives, like, only, what the hell options are I like was
00:37:13
like, whoa, this is going really.
00:37:15
First of all, listen, Owing to this at like 11.8 speed.
00:37:18
So, you know, like most things I can track, but like, when
00:37:21
you're, you're giving me a whole economics lesson.
00:37:23
I was like, all right, I need to slow this down or I really care
00:37:26
about that. But yeah, the the other
00:37:28
interesting thing was the whole Kennedy stuff you know like
00:37:31
throwing his that's that's just like his Idea of what the can
00:37:37
be, like, who actually we killed her reason.
00:37:41
Kennedy got got assassinated, right?
00:37:43
Yeah. Because he was meddling in
00:37:45
Vietnam and we had that coup and see.
00:37:48
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:50
And he even gave a rationale in the author's note at the end
00:37:54
about how he was inspired to put that in there.
00:37:56
Based on some research he found and would work because a lot of
00:38:00
the Vietnam era stuff and you know, the time re stuff.
00:38:04
So I could see tangentially how it fit with.
00:38:07
We're tracking the pows. Why did the poww thing happen?
00:38:11
Because we got heavily invested in this war.
00:38:15
What does that have to do with the CIA and Kennedy?
00:38:17
So sure, it just felt strange. When it came up.
00:38:23
I would have been. Okay, if it was mentioned once
00:38:25
just like, let's drop this little historical.
00:38:28
Nugget possible conspiracy theory, but most likely probably
00:38:31
actually true and you have the CIA is pressuring current
00:38:36
administration's multiple ones not to release the documents.
00:38:39
Sure. It's all there but the books not
00:38:41
about it in the book is frankly, just not about any of that.
00:38:44
No, it's not about it at all. Mention it.
00:38:47
Move on. Sounds good.
00:38:48
I'll pick that in it. Just a little not going to harp
00:38:51
on it. The economic stuff.
00:38:53
On the other hand, it would deep, Bro.
00:38:56
That would be super Dave. Was that the longest chapter in
00:38:59
the book? He just kept going and I feel
00:39:02
like I was being told what derivatives and options and puts
00:39:05
are like three or four times, and maybe that's because James
00:39:09
needed that in order to get the point.
00:39:12
But it's just a way really. Ali wasn't necessary.
00:39:16
I mean, it was interesting that it, he took the time to actually
00:39:18
explain. You know what they were doing
00:39:22
with the with the with their money, right?
00:39:25
And like how the collective was manipulating instead of just,
00:39:31
you know, hand-wavy this is what they do.
00:39:35
So, yeah, I just, we could talk about balance again because I
00:39:40
actually, before the concert that you mentioned, I was
00:39:43
hanging out with my buddies who I was going with and I was like,
00:39:46
yeah. Let me tell you guys, this
00:39:47
Theory. I was reading about And if you
00:39:50
could predict a Black Swan and like that was such a cool full
00:39:55
philosophical like concept to think of as like the Ukraine
00:39:59
invasion was essentially you're controlling the timing of a
00:40:02
Black Swan event. Whoo.
00:40:05
And you know, when the West reopened sanctions if ever, you
00:40:08
know, in the future that will radically shift economies.
00:40:12
What if you could predict that date because you're the one
00:40:14
deciding doll, doesn't agree to the terms are like China, right?
00:40:19
Then you bring in Taiwan, how China Russia were a lying.
00:40:22
Huge, huge event, shaking, Global markets.
00:40:26
The day China decides to launch a physical invasion of Taiwan,
00:40:32
and the people who are planning and executing that know the
00:40:35
timing of it, that can give them an economic advantage through,
00:40:38
you know, options, derivatives and whatnot.
00:40:40
So it was making a really, really good point, a very
00:40:45
thought-provoking point. We actually talked about it at
00:40:47
the bar for like 30, 40 minutes like Could an aggressor who
00:40:51
invades another country, basically be manipulating
00:40:53
markets in order to gain an economic advantage and it's
00:40:57
like, whoa. That's yeah, that's interesting
00:41:00
stuff but I don't know if I needed it to go this long in the
00:41:04
tooth and and be this descriptive about it but really
00:41:08
cool theory that actually got me to talk, you know, and share and
00:41:11
let other people comment on that.
00:41:13
So cool discussion starter But again, a little quicker, let's
00:41:17
move on. I want to see res with a hatchet
00:41:19
slice of dude, open through the ribcage and then cut his neck
00:41:22
and zip ties. Somebody's cock and balls.
00:41:24
Yeah, you went there. Yeah, I see it in a video
00:41:30
format, like, Amazon Prime into to cover that one.
00:41:34
Please, no, thank you Amazon XXX.
00:41:40
So well, they even mention it earlier, right?
00:41:44
With the fact that a year before March of twenty years, February
00:41:48
of 2020. 1 23 February 20 20 right people in Russia were
00:41:56
already starting to manipulate the the oil Futures, right.
00:42:00
Because they knew that they predicted that this is how
00:42:03
sanctions ago this would cause the skyrocketing you know the
00:42:08
cost of electricity because oil because Europe is odometer on it
00:42:13
and you also saw with covid, right?
00:42:15
All those senators are interesting that you know, is
00:42:19
bipartisan both said, Is we had all that information in early
00:42:23
early January, as soon as they found out about before, like
00:42:26
covid-19 in our minds, they were selling their Crews stock and
00:42:34
their Hospitality stock and buying up, you know, stock
00:42:38
companies that make masks and PPE and stuff like that, you
00:42:41
know. No, no, no Chris.
00:42:43
It was their brothers housekeepers son's baseball
00:42:46
coach. Who was selling the stocks.
00:42:48
Chris, it wasn't them. All right.
00:42:51
Right. And then they would just give
00:42:52
them a big you know gift of a yacht or take him on a vacation
00:42:55
to the Bahamas. So Chris they weren't the ones
00:42:57
manipulating those it was there, you know, Brothers cousins son's
00:43:00
uncle's waiter, you know, they would sell the stocks okay.
00:43:04
Chris, come on. Yeah, if you could only this is
00:43:11
why insider trading is like so interested in me.
00:43:13
Like I work for a big company like I know things that like go
00:43:16
on and it's like, you know, if only people knew what's going
00:43:19
on, they can I do Oh, this stuck your the common folk.
00:43:23
You can't do it. You know.
00:43:24
I know. I can't do that.
00:43:25
Here's you can't do it. If you run for Congress though.
00:43:29
Go right ahead. That it's all right.
00:43:31
Yeah. Oh my God, her name's Nancy or
00:43:33
Martha. You can get away with it.
00:43:35
Well Martha didn't. Never mind.
00:43:37
Yeah. Is it interesting New York
00:43:40
Times? Things a about robocalls.
00:43:42
We should talk about that offline.
00:43:44
But anyways. All right, but let's, you know,
00:43:48
we picked our Nets. There's not many, you know, we
00:43:50
have within the tripod, boys. So we got to pick some dates.
00:43:54
Let's, um, get anything else you want to say before we get to the
00:43:57
scorecard. I actually, I know you usually
00:43:59
you're hitting me with the questions, I love them.
00:44:01
I did have a few for you, though.
00:44:03
We journey be touched on these things, but I just want to get
00:44:05
your final thoughts. How satisfied were you with
00:44:10
truth and consequences? You know we've always heard Jack
00:44:13
say these one line themes he tries to stick the stick to for
00:44:16
his books and in the preface he did say the novel you hold in
00:44:20
your hands is one of Truth and Consequences how much of what
00:44:24
follows is fiction and how much is truth?
00:44:26
You will know when you turn the final page, enjoy the journey
00:44:30
time is ticking. Did that pay off for you?
00:44:34
I think it did, you know, I think obviously this whole idea
00:44:39
of Truth. First fiction is how he
00:44:41
intertwined the story with current events, you know, and
00:44:44
like you sort of taken that way. But I think the truth in the
00:44:47
sense of what we got in terms of pay out, you know, I think this
00:44:52
is another question you have how well, do you think the time
00:44:55
re-stuff was handled and I think it was handled well, I think it
00:44:58
paid off the time, his father. Constant being in his head
00:45:03
saying that you don't always have time to time as your
00:45:06
biggest commodity to the world's largest commodity it doesn't
00:45:11
exist. Forever need to use it wisely.
00:45:14
So yeah. And then consequences this idea
00:45:18
of any action that someone takes is going to have to have
00:45:22
repercussions. And I think one of our tools and
00:45:24
what are the tools that Jack uses is Greece as a tool to Dole
00:45:29
out those consequences and I thought that was So cool.
00:45:32
How we did did certain things. So yeah, 100% agree with you.
00:45:36
Yeah I got nothing. Had that was perfect.
00:45:38
I loved it. Time is ticking time is ticking.
00:45:42
Yeah. Only The Dead.
00:45:46
What are your thoughts on that as the title?
00:45:49
Now that you read the book? Because the quote and the front,
00:45:52
Only The Dead have seen the end of War, George santayana, What
00:45:57
do you think about that? yeah, I was kind of thinking
00:46:00
about this at the end, like, what'd What did that mean?
00:46:05
And I guess it's a nod to his father.
00:46:09
It's a nod to you know the mission that is follows on like
00:46:14
I'm covering these pows a nod to The amount of people that James
00:46:21
Reese puts in the ground, like they're the only ones who are
00:46:23
going to know this the full extent of the story like it.
00:46:26
What did you think he was going for there?
00:46:29
I think the biggest payoff there is some of the Vietnam stuff.
00:46:34
Yeah and it was so important to Tom Reiss that for that reason.
00:46:39
It makes sense to me you know only the dead have seen the end
00:46:42
of War we're hearing about these pows and Jack had actual
00:46:46
research on this. In his author's note pows were
00:46:49
still contemplating rescue missions in the 80s, getting
00:46:52
them out. That's crazy, that's crazy,
00:46:55
Jesus Christ, you know, and he cited.
00:46:59
I Four or five authors and books who talk about their stories as
00:47:02
pows way after the war ended, I think the title is a great
00:47:06
tribute to them. I think that the James Reese
00:47:10
action plot and the collective stuff.
00:47:12
I'm not so sure about, but the fact that that was the backdrop
00:47:16
of this story. The Vietnam era, Tom Reiss, Po,
00:47:19
and Stow storyline. I love only the dead as a title
00:47:23
with the post. Oh, and Tom backdrop.
00:47:26
Yeah, and we wrap up at the All right, in between the Vietnam
00:47:32
memorial in the Korean War Memorial and he points to the
00:47:37
World War Two Memorial and like, how, you know, were his like,
00:47:44
you're the quote guy, but I thought it was a cool quote,
00:47:46
where he talks about in that one.
00:47:48
And that one, we lost people. And then that one, I think we
00:47:50
learned that war is big business, right?
00:47:53
And it's going to we're going to keep going into these wars too.
00:47:59
Essentially fill the coffers of Defense contractors whatever.
00:48:02
So yeah, we are, we have the dead to show for it.
00:48:05
So yeah, that's it. Only the dead have seen the end
00:48:09
to that cycle, the military industrial complex.
00:48:14
Our Chris so Jack's been leaving us on some Cliffhangers.
00:48:18
Definitely last book, a little bit.
00:48:19
This book, I think we might have to leave the people with a
00:48:22
cliffhanger. Can I propose something here?
00:48:25
Sure, last book, we had Tyler, boo Iran to give us his
00:48:29
thoughts, his scorecard, and his rankings of the J Murray's book.
00:48:34
We've got a full episode here, already, I don't want to cut
00:48:37
this or take anything away from the people, but what if we try
00:48:40
within the next couple of days, so that people don't have to
00:48:42
wait too long, we get Tyler Brewer back and we have a
00:48:46
discussion on the scorecard. Judge a book by the cover, and
00:48:51
we do our whole segment with him, that way we can get his
00:48:53
takes on the book as a James Reese, Jack car expert.
00:48:57
You down for that little Cliff Hanger here, it sounds good to
00:49:00
me. We had them over the last
00:49:01
couple, we have to get his You know, see where this ranks, you
00:49:05
know might as well combine the two, I do it.
00:49:07
Why do it two times and the people get an extra episode out
00:49:10
of it. How about there you go?
00:49:12
There you go. I'll give you some hints.
00:49:14
This one's this one's got a pretty good ranking of the newer
00:49:17
Jack car stuff and there's a certain cover that you and I
00:49:21
really liked or something on the cover that we were big fans of.
00:49:24
So we'll see if Ty feels the same way because he's the dude
00:49:28
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00:49:31
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00:50:03
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00:50:37
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00:50:41
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00:50:43
another before we get back to our Scott Harvest series.
00:50:48
You have another installment in another series that we love so
00:50:52
much. Chris Howdy's new book just
00:50:54
dropped. Yes the devil you know it's out.
00:50:58
Yeah so we got to get to reading.
00:50:59
We got to record that for this um this pot I looked up a couple
00:51:04
some old notes. We did our only the Dead preview
00:51:06
back. Yeah.
00:51:08
I want to see late December early January and we could come
00:51:10
up with a little reading list up until went up until May.
00:51:15
We probably put out a new one since May is almost over, and I
00:51:19
have to say we did pretty well. We only missed one book.
00:51:24
We only didn't do full black and that's because we threw in an
00:51:27
extra Stir book, we add it. We did on Bentley's first books,
00:51:30
or plays for black with that. So, we hit One, two, three,
00:51:36
four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.
00:51:39
After the double, you know, it'll be ten books in five
00:51:41
months to a month work work and then we're going all over the
00:51:44
place. You know, we did Jack car, we we
00:51:48
did Connor Sullivan, we did dog, Bentley Scott, harv at Chris
00:51:53
howdy so and I think we are going to try to commit to doing
00:51:57
Kyle. Mills is fade before code red
00:52:00
comes out. Yes, and hopefully one more one
00:52:02
or two more down, Bentley books. So that Take us through what
00:52:05
September when we get the the new rap book.
00:52:08
And we're going to have a new Scott Harvick book coming out
00:52:12
next Monday in July, so Deadfall in July.
00:52:15
Yeah. We've got, we did great things.
00:52:18
First half of 2023, we've got even better things planned for
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