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Hey guys. I'm Chris and I'm Mike and
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welcome back to this week's No Limits.
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The Thriller podcast, what's new this week Mike and how much just
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a Happy New Year to you and the family new house.
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Since New Year, same old podcast.
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Yeah, this is my first pot in my new house. 60% set up in my
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office. I have a desk and I have my
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computer and I can plug in my computer that's and I can plug
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in the mic. That's the most important part
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and your sound is pretty good, maybe you'll get better audio
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here, we'll see. Yeah, we'll see.
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It's a little bit more enclosed room and than before.
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So, all right, all right. Well, I shouldn't say same old
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podcast because we've got some new things going on.
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What did you think about my To our website.
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I want to make it a little easier for new folks to
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navigate, it's very nice. You I said this on our group me
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chat, but you're like, 85 percent of the population, 85%
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of the work. And I coming off the top rope.
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Swing in, with my takes and know the work.
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Yes, the work. Sure the hours.
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Yes. But not, not at all the spirit,
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the soul of this podcast. That's, that's 100 and 100 you.
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And me now, the website looks amazing and I hope people Enjoy
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it. It's it's real easy with the
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real easy to access and I think you know we'll eventually we'll
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get everything up there right now.
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We have what Jack are Jack series, which is, you know, I'm
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loving that where we have a full almost a full next month.
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We will have finished up to date with Jack car will have all of
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them in trap stuff. Pretty much all the Chris howdy
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stuff up to date, right? Yeah.
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The new book in May will be covering then.
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So yeah, Andrews and Wilson were we're Open up with the shepherd
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series, the sons of Valor stuff and breath or of course it you
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gotta mention breath or we got what, six seven books in already
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on that. That's a third almost.
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Yeah, that is a third actually 22 books coming out this year.
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What are you third of? What when do we start Scott?
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Is it last January? Well with six books, we tried to
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keep it to one a month. We missed a few months because
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of new releases and whatnot and like the mid Rap Book oath of
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loyalty. So, It had to be early. 22 would
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be my guess. Yeah I guess it was like April
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maybe. Yeah.
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No. But the website my whole
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intention was to make it easier for I guess both new and
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returning listeners to go find our episodes book by book.
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And so we have a page for each author that we've covered and
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it's clearly laid out with every episode linking to the books and
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the covers of the book. So you can see our Graphics.
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When we do judge a cover by the book are Graphics are right
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there. With all the covers, it's in
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order of each Series so you can link part one and part two
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episodes right there to whatever book you want to listen to in
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the moment. So, hopefully makes it easier
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because we wanted to be like a library, a library of content.
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As you read a novel, you don't have to read the series in order
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every time, but if you pick up one, you can go find our
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episodes on it. So hopefully that makes it a
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little bit easier for you to do that.
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Yeah, we got to find a way to get our score cards up there.
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Maybe, maybe go back and redo some scorecards for verse of
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other series. I was I was looking at that, we
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don't have score cards for everything.
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Even the first few Brad Thor's. We didn't do it for right now.
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I'm wondering I want to make a little page about the scorecard
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explaining it. I'm thinking maybe it works best
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as a spreadsheet, just kind of a spreadsheet where you could see
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all our marks and compare them. But also like, just posting that
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up there, taking it out of context.
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Some people could get angry. You know, if you don't listen to
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the Pod you just find this online and you see that?
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What we rated something. You got to listen to us, you
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know. Like you could after you listen
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to us and you still disagree, that's fine.
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But like you can't just, you know, see the Rotten Tomato
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score without reading some of the reviews, you know, really
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why people are actually angry about it and then understand,
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you know, you know, but that can be taken both ways.
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Exactly. You know, like, half the time I,
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we were talk. What were we talking about
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something where I'll look and likewise, why is this item so
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badly rated? Because I actually enjoy it and
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I look, and it's not people are rating.
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The actual item it's like they're rating Amazon.
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It's like yes item arrived late. Yeah, the box was opened or
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damaged one star like. Alright that's not on the
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company that's like that that sounds like the item or whoever
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is selling the item is whoever shipped you lied and said dude
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that happen this morning. We went to this biscuit place
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that just opened by me District biscuit biscuit like this is.
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Yeah I'm like oh this is gonna be mint.
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And this dude had operated at like five or six.
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Different farmers markets was just selling biscuits at home,
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decide to open a brick-and-mortar place.
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A pretty big deal. I'm like crap.
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Some of the reviews were blasting in.
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There were a couple of one-star reviews.
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Look, what is going on, everyone was complaining that their Uber
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each driver was late. I'm like, that's not the
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platform like you write that on Uber, you don't rate the
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restaurant or anyway, it's just like, it's just circle back and
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things needed can be taken out of context.
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So again, we encourage people to go on our website dive in, you
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know, pick a random, a tripod. Listen to part one, listen to
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Part 2, that's the more exciting one.
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Anyway half the time. So yeah, really really proud of
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this website now. Aw, thanks man.
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Thanks man. One thing on reviews, I don't
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want to take forever on this but it's very hard to get people to
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write your podcast on Apple podcasts in the app.
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Five stars does go a long way and as Jack car has said, it
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helps us beat the big Tech. Big media, algorithms by finding
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podcasts such as this one, but I saw we only have two official
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review. In the platform for Thriller pod
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and thank you so much for those of you who took the time, but
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one of them gave us four stars for no other reason.
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Than we haven't covered a book, he wants us to cover.
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So anyway, he literally said in the review, I will change this
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to 5 Stars, if they cover this book, but refuse to give us five
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stars. I was like, alright, well thank
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you anyway. Thanks for listening.
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Well, that's one way to get us to cover a book.
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I guess, you know, now I want to cover this book.
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I'm intrigued. What is the book?
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I don't know about that. And actually, I mean, they're
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pretty good series. He's I think he mentioned the
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Joel Rosenberg series of Marcus Riker.
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Somebody else might have also mentioned Brad Taylor which I
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know, Mark and others, that's a big one.
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They want to hear and we want to hear Brad Taylor.
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We'd love to get there soon. But yeah, please be patient with
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us because we are coming up with are 2023 reading list and it's
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already jam-packed. Yes, of January.
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We have the last Patriot in the devil's hand in February.
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We're doing the Apostle and Sleeping Bear.
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In March we're doing foreign influence and will Trap because
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it will trap is Liebherr R. The are the to counter Sullivan,
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right? Yeah.
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That's kind of resolved in second.
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Coming out in March. Yep.
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And then, in April, you get a double dose of Scott Horvath the
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Athena project and full black. I see people are down on the
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theme project. I actually really enjoyed that
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book. I was that have Scott it.
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I don't remember it. He, he makes a cameo in it.
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I like it makes you a champion, three chapters.
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Yeah. Okay, he comes at a like a boat.
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This is what I remember boat or submarine helps her out.
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Like the main, the main Chick and then leaves.
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And then in may we get well you know the book we're talking
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about today only the dead and another of our favorites.
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The devil you know with Chris howdy.
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So that's a stacked reading list.
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Mike? Yes it is.
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Yes it is. I thought Connor Sullivan would
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be doing something a little different getting a debut author
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out there with his second. You know, we've talked a lot
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about this one-two punch for new Authors and I think nobody
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nailed it, like Chris howdy, or Jack car.
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So, Really hoping in Connor Sullivan, we can have another
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one to punch with Wolf Trap when it comes out.
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That's why I want to squeeze that one into the list here
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because Sleeping Bear was really, really good.
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All right, I'm excited about today.
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That's a lot of banter, a lot of business.
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A lot of background. We are jumping into, Only The
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Dead with a preview episode, considering just last week and
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it was funny. We were talking to Tyler Booher
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and we were both jazzed up about the only the dead cover reveal.
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We're like, it's got to be soon. Hinting that it soon, this
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teaser trailer had dropped. And so, we were just pumped, we
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needed to see this cover and then he texted me, I think it
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was the day after we finished recording.
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He's like, dude, what do you think of this?
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And he and I were going back and forth.
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So today, we'll jump into the plot, the teaser trailer and the
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cover of only the dead. A preview for Jack's next book
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in the James Reese series coming out in May.
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I want to say think that's a May release.
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May 20 23? Yep.
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I let me ask you what did you think of that teaser trailer?
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Yeah, no. I was saying this before we
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started recording but most of these book trailers, you know, I
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don't really know who they're for like, why people need a book
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trailer. I understand like what Jack is
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going with, in terms of hype, he's a influencer has very
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present on social media, it's marketing.
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We but yeah, exactly. You can go back and look at like
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all the mid trap stuff and there's these crappy book
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trailers on YouTube like really. Gaby.
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I don't know who they get to read, they don't get George to
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read them and, you know, but this one, on the other hand was
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fucking bad ass. Like really cool tells us about
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literally gives us pretty much the blurb, right?
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That's we've also gotten sets up the the story great.
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You get like a lot of these shots of, you know, people, you
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know, because there's this cabal of global Elites, I want to get
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into the plot because I feel like I'm a little bit burdened.
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Down by this, this plotline so really, we'll see.
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We'll see how because, I don't know everyone's doing it, man.
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Everyone's doing the conspiracy stuff.
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I kind of like this idea of conspirators.
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It almost seems a little more Vince Flynn to me.
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It, maybe it's because we just did we just did a couple of them
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and I think we're going to get into to Brad's version of this
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soon. So, it's like, it's coming from,
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like, every like everyone has to like touch on this, this
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plotline, if they're going to do a political thriller and You
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know, this type of genre, put their character in the mix.
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Well, what I am intrigued about is seeing James Reese, like how
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he comes into play in this. And I wanted to ask you is the
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world's most dangerous, man? That's have been solitary
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confinement. That's, that's, that's James,
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right? Dude, of course, and Major
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Spoilers right throughout this episode, because in the blood
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left us a huge Cliff Hanger, I might say one of the bigger
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Cliffhangers in this series, so spoilers for the ending of in
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the blood, if you haven't, Read that one yet.
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Yeah. Do when James gets taken when he
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gives the key to Katie and then they come in and all right, I'm
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really complete the eye and everybody swarms his house and
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I'm blanking on like the, in the blood because we just did a
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Savage. We did true believe in cyber
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son. Oh, that's right.
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That's where a solitary confinement.
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That was almost massive to me, because that's, that's what
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happens. He does indeed, get taken.
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He doesn't fight them off and they put him in solitary
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confinement like that, right there.
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Is a huge jump from what we knew at the end of in the blood that
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line in itself dropped in a trailer like this or even in the
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blur the extended blurb, like, the dust jacket cover that,
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dude, that's huge. That like what is he going to
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do? It, does he get out of it?
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Is it a political answer that gets him out of it?
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Or is it people and friends from the past, spring him?
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Because that would be nasty. Can you imagine if Rafe or even
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your member Marco from the terminal list that Mexican
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billionaire. What is Liz do?
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Like can you imagine if they spring him out of solitary
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confinement, I'd be insane. And he's gonna be like a
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politician, you know, like someone is on his side.
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Yeah, figures out a way to get him out or, or they need him to
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need them. Yeah, they need them.
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You know, I don't know. Do you know it?
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I'm excited. But I'm also like, I guess I'm
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more skeptical of like, let's see.
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Let's see what Jack can do? Let's see what he can see.
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He can, if you can take this, this Common Thread is common
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back story and I want to see his take on it.
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I'm excited for that, right? So, if you're a little on the
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fence, let me just read the description.
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You get in this teaser trailer video, which is all over social
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media and Jack's website right now.
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And then we'll give the Fuller blurb where they talk a little
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bit more about this cabal of global conspirators, but just
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listen to how awesome this is. The world is on the brink of
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War, a weakened United States facing rampant inflation, and
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political division, and shocking assassinations a secret cabal of
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global Elites ready to assume control.
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With the world's most dangerous man locked in.
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Solitary confinement. The conspirators.
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Believe their final obstacle to complete domination has been
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eliminated. They're wrong.
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Spring 2023. James Reese is back.
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It's like a Marvel movie right there, you know, James Ray's
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will return. I think that that gets me so
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hyped and I didn't even realize the shocking assassinations.
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I forgot the reason they're locking him up, is somebody
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framed him in the president's assassination?
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Right. Right, right, right.
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Massive things have happened but at the very end of in the blood
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and I'm glad to hear we're jumping right into the aftermath
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of that. Right?
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And so can we go right into the the extended blur?
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Yeah. Let's do it.
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Let's keep going. So in 1980 a freshman
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Congressman was done down in Rhode Island sending shock waves
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through Washington that are still reverberating over four
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decades later. So is this the shocking
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assassinations or there is the president assassination in the
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home? The last book, The shocking
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assassination or multiple or we have going to see other
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assassinations? Yeah, I don't know.
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And how does this thing from 1980 tie-in?
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Was it something with ruses Father, you know?
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Right. Yeah, so for the firm's of Wall
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Street to the corridors of power in Washington DC and Moscow
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Secrets From the Past, have an uncanny ability to rise to the
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surface. In the present with the odds
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stacked against him, James Reese is on a mission Generations in
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the making Hopefully we're going to get a culmination of all this
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key stuff. His father, his watch like I'm
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really hoping. Yep, that we don't if we don't
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get a full explanation on everything.
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Yep, I'm going to be disappointing, dude.
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Right there, the emission Generations in the making means
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something we really do father, something with Thomas reefs and
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then combine that with in the blood, having these flashbacks
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section or these voices, right? That James is here.
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I think it's brilliant and He's smart to lean into that.
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So I think you're right. I think we're going to actually
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see Thomas written on the page, much more than just a memory
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that's being recounted by Reese. We're actually going to see and
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be in the past, right? Unfortunately, for his enemies.
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The former seal is not concerned with the odds, don't tell me the
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odds. Never tell me the odds, he's on
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a Warpath, and when James Reese, picks up a tomahawk and sniper
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rifle, no one is out of range. That's a Badass line right there
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dude, no one is out of range. Don't tell me the odds if
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they're not doing fanservice right there with those last few
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sentences. That's fan candy right there.
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I don't know how else to put it. I think he said it in the last
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book. Like I'm pretty sure I meant to
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bring it up with the pot but I forgot but he said it to someone
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whether he's going to rape or one of the clever was helping
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him when we rape was kidnapped or like a by himself was like, I
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never want to do that. You know it wasn't like the
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exact same line that Harrison Ford says but yeah absolutely it
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might have come up more than once.
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Yeah dude I'm excited for this book dude.
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It's going to be so good and everything we're saying is
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coming off of in the blood. We talked about some of the
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connections there but none of this hints at Alice and so I'm
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wondering and I think we see Alice again.
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You don't think Alice comes back.
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No I don't think so. If she does is going to be like
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a one pager where he you You could kind of tell that he liked
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liked the idea that Alice but by the end of the book, he even
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said in his interview, she's just so powerful.
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It's it's too much to use as a, you know, she's to omnipotent to
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use to be interesting in a book. I get that what being being Opie
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overpowered, you know, like, like like Santos.
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They had like they had a rewrite, the and I was through
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the course of the MCU from how, like, strong he was in the like,
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the very To the very end because they needed to show him having a
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little bit of weakness, so that we could rise up, get the stones
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and be even more powerful. So, like, if you have a
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character like that, who just can't be stopped or this is,
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especially prescient because did you see the one where, like the
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recently, this news article where they had to shut off an
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AI? Because I pay the a, I like was
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starting to think for, you know, the thing for itself and do
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things and actually you know, because so they're coming out
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with all these languages, right? Right.
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The GT3 the dolly which Dolly? I don't know if you guys know
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this but GT3 is the bot where you tell it to write me a mid
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trap novel in the style of you know, Tom Clancy.
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And so it has everything. So it'll go and search all read
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all the Mitch I'm not heard about it all the time Clancy
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novels and then you know you depending on what the parameters
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you give it or how good your prompt is.
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It'll then kick out a really good thing if someone even did
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it had it right? The next Game of Thrones book
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and it was, it was amazing. She's a no.
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I think I saw that in a headline that was like, our essays.
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A thing of the past like how can you ever trust assigning
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students, an essay in college or something or a paper to write
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with this body? Because the way the body does it
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is it gives you every piece of text.
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It gives you is original. So it's not like, you know, It's
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not plagiarism. You can't, you know, like this
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plagiarism tools, I'm sure, you know, as a teacher, if you were
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to take this article that you put in and then try to search
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it, you won't find it anywhere. Now, right now, it's still a
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little bit, even if you tell it to write like someone, right?
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It's not the text, not ready yet, but the eye.
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But I think it'll get there. And especially, like, you could
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say, all right, I want you to read, you can input your
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articles and like, If you're a journalist you say all right,
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this is how I write write something on the Ukraine war,
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you know, in my writing and it learns, you know, so the like
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that's crazy, it's learning the things that we thought were the
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intangibles of that craft, like, tone and theme and sentence
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structure and Cadence, but now it's got an algorithm to master,
00:19:40
even those things. So then there's this other
00:19:43
interesting podcast who he goes into this quite a bit, it's
00:19:47
called out. Plain English, Derek Thompson is
00:19:50
a guy and he said, what, what, what about, what about?
00:19:55
If I take that and then I use it as like my base of almost like
00:20:00
my outline and then like, is that plagiarism, you know?
00:20:03
Like because if you hadn't down its your you revise, it it's
00:20:08
your work, right? It's a nicely.
00:20:10
It's assisted by this bot. Yeah, but dude, it's very
00:20:14
tricky. So bring it back to Alice.
00:20:16
No, yeah, like I get the argument, but no.
00:20:18
That conversation is important to me because I would love to
00:20:21
see that level of thoughtfulness in analysis dealt with in a
00:20:26
novel in a thriller novel. So wait, what if Alice gets him
00:20:30
out of solitary confinement, dude, or that's what I'm saying,
00:20:32
like, you don't put Alice back in a box, right?
00:20:35
And I agree that last novel Jack asked a bunch of questions
00:20:39
around Alice and posed a lot of thoughtful things and didn't end
00:20:43
up going further in it. And he mentioned, you know, I
00:20:46
didn't want to be too sci-fi. Some people already thought he
00:20:49
was too going down that path too much.
00:20:52
I disagree once you put Alice in the universe, one that you don't
00:20:56
close. You don't close that box.
00:20:58
I think when he posed questions like, remember when it's spied
00:21:02
on Katie and James, remember, it was like, here is a video of
00:21:06
Katie right now meeting with her friend in her living room or
00:21:08
something and Reese's, like, stop it.
00:21:10
Shut it off. Don't know that kill it.
00:21:13
So the ethics, I think he's willing to ask the questions.
00:21:16
I would love to see this book. Look further that discussion
00:21:19
around the ethics of it all. And then you kind of reframe the
00:21:24
ethics, if indeed Alice, can get him out of that or if indeed,
00:21:27
she can be the link that takes down the global conspirators.
00:21:31
So I would love to see that leaned into, I do agree with you
00:21:36
all the signaling I'm getting is that we're not going to go that
00:21:39
route. But I do want to say I would be
00:21:42
okay with it. Yeah, so actually to connect
00:21:47
back to in the blood. I listened to our In The Blood
00:21:50
episodes and in fact I thought my Limerick was kind of a nice
00:21:55
way to to connect it because I mentioned a few things in my
00:21:59
Limerick that I think still need to be addressed in this book.
00:22:03
So while I don't have a limerick for only the dead yet,
00:22:05
obviously, listen to this, from in the blood, it will kind of
00:22:08
get us back in the mindset of where we ended that book and
00:22:11
what might still be coming. There once was an AI named
00:22:15
Alice. Will she be Friend or Foe
00:22:17
without malice helping Reese out?
00:22:20
Is that what she's about as they hunt is our cotton?
00:22:23
Who so callous in alia Reese had a good friend blown from the sky
00:22:28
to a sad end hunting, her killer makes a great Thriller.
00:22:33
But alas, it is, he they'll apprehend.
00:22:36
So they take Reese, we've got Alice, we don't know if she's
00:22:40
Friend or Foe or has the potential to be Friend or Foe
00:22:43
long term. And then also we've got that
00:22:46
lady the Israeli Mossad agent who was blown from the sky and
00:22:51
Tyler mentioned he didn't like a cold open that had nothing to do
00:22:54
with Reese but he was okay with it when we got the back story of
00:22:58
their friendship and relationship, do you feel the
00:23:01
congressman in the 1980s is going to be something similar?
00:23:04
We open with a scene that might Might be seem tangential or just
00:23:08
totally unrelated in some way. But we really learn how integral
00:23:13
whatever happened with this Congressman in 1980 really
00:23:16
impacts the mission releases on today.
00:23:18
Would you be? Would you like that the same way
00:23:20
he did it with Alia last book? Yeah, that's fine.
00:23:23
With me, I mean, I feel like Vince did this a lot where the
00:23:26
first chapter doesn't have much rap, but you're always going to
00:23:28
see him. Chapter 3 chapter 2 or 3 or, you
00:23:33
know, if it's not in the prologue than chapter one.
00:23:37
So, you know, he's just, he's learning, Jack is learning.
00:23:40
This is, his will be his sixth novel, right?
00:23:42
So, can't wait, man, couple months.
00:23:45
What if we wrap up here with something we love or do the Cub
00:23:49
judge, a cover by the book? We don't have the book.
00:23:51
So I think today Chris we just have to judge the cover.
00:23:54
What was your reaction to seeing this?
00:23:56
I think it's pretty sick. Honestly, all you need to do is
00:23:59
get rid of the guru to the face. It's only like five eighths of a
00:24:04
faith a face. So I'm kind of okay with it.
00:24:07
It's all right. But the so we're going to be on
00:24:10
boats. You know who the young Bobby?
00:24:12
Yeah, giant. Yeah.
00:24:15
On this rough sea with the tomahawk and then what are the
00:24:19
structures behind you like these mountains that a mountain
00:24:23
resettlement? Looks like in Arizona I was
00:24:27
trying to figure out exactly. It looks like you know when Lake
00:24:31
Mead you saw those pictures that went down and write r that a' or
00:24:35
even in Utah like a round arches.
00:24:36
There's a bunch of. Yeah, I don't know.
00:24:39
Yeah. That dry Sandstone but that
00:24:41
could also be like Middle East or know somewhere along the Red
00:24:44
Sea or one of the The desert regions.
00:24:48
Yeah, I don't know that boat isn't that?
00:24:49
I think he's gonna, I think he's going to stay in America.
00:24:52
It's going to be very American focused, I think so too.
00:24:55
Yeah, it says, Wall Street, the the cabal, the corridors of
00:24:58
power in Washington, the firm's of Wall Street, Moscow is
00:25:02
mentioned to, so there's a Russia connection he hasn't
00:25:05
really done one since Terminal S.
00:25:07
It was mainly focused in the United States.
00:25:10
So yeah, do that. Boat is pretty sweet.
00:25:13
And the Winkler, the Winkler front and center Front said, Her
00:25:16
baby. That's sick.
00:25:17
Dude I think it's a great cover. I'm getting Jaws Vibes.
00:25:21
My first reaction, I texted, I was young.
00:25:23
We're gonna need a bigger cover. I don't know why.
00:25:26
This this title screams Jaws. To Me.
00:25:29
Only The Dead, Only The Dead. What talk?
00:25:33
Only the dead earlier, the dead. Can't talk all the dead.
00:25:37
Only The Dead. Leave keys in gun cases inside
00:25:41
of a Land Cruiser inside of a. No, it's storage you right away.
00:25:46
Going to hear a wet Grand Wagoneer right inside the wagon
00:25:48
here. Inside the storage unit, which
00:25:50
you had to have another special key for yeah.
00:25:54
Now, it's a cool government, I'd probably give it like a four,
00:25:56
four and a half. Yeah, we don't know the story.
00:25:58
So if the boat and obviously, if that has nothing to do with the
00:26:02
story, then it's got to go down. It's going to go down because
00:26:05
that's not, okay, but the the start of the under the covers, I
00:26:09
mean, you have you have a little here, all the covers have had
00:26:12
something to do, I mean most over just like a dude.
00:26:16
Replace well what I like about the boat and these Rocky Sandy
00:26:20
mountains in the back. Is, if that's a really key
00:26:24
scene. I'd love it.
00:26:26
At the same, a True Believer, missed out on having the
00:26:28
sailboat or the African jungle on the cover.
00:26:31
So you would kind of be righting that wrong for me.
00:26:34
If if that with the, the yacht is a key scene that would really
00:26:38
right for me Yeah, no definitely.
00:26:41
Definitely and less face I would say less face and body than the
00:26:44
other, well, maybe a little more face, their eyes there, but a
00:26:48
little less body than the other cover.
00:26:49
So I'm oh, that makes up for it. Yeah, I guess I'm okay with the
00:26:54
face without the body. I think it works here for some
00:26:58
reason. Maybe it's the orange, I like
00:27:00
how the orange around the face Echoes the handle of the Winkler
00:27:04
at the bottom. So something about the
00:27:07
composition, I'm okay with that. I'm calling the guy Jack but
00:27:10
like this is Jade. So James is like shoulders,
00:27:14
almost also look like a mountain, you know, right?
00:27:17
Yes. Like an even taller one in the
00:27:20
ones in the foreground. Yes.
00:27:22
Yeah, the composition I think is fantastic here.
00:27:24
I might at this point and not knowing the story.
00:27:29
I might say, it's my favorite, check our cover so far, again, I
00:27:32
can't conclude that till I know the story but composition wise,
00:27:37
it definitely is for me in the blood covers pretty cool because
00:27:40
that's like the sniper BC, its BC, he write that.
00:27:45
Yeah, I'll give you that. Savage sun was cool too.
00:27:49
Yeah. Again, they're all good.
00:27:52
I haven't really called any of them.
00:27:53
Great. I think this one is borderline
00:27:55
great. Yeah, I would agree.
00:27:57
It's probably the best one so far and very curious what the B
00:28:01
line will look like. You know, the a line, the main
00:28:05
cover of the hardcover is always the guy standing with some sort
00:28:08
of dramatic background of a landscape or cityscape.
00:28:13
The B line has those like panels.
00:28:15
It's almost torn up and we've really like those And the
00:28:18
Savage. Sun, one of walking through the
00:28:20
forest of Siberia, was pretty cool.
00:28:22
If I really want to see this one in the, in the B, line style.
00:28:26
Can't wait, man. Who a couple months to good
00:28:29
stuff? Good stuff.
00:28:30
Let us know what you think of only the dead.
00:28:32
Hit us up on social media. We'd love to get your takes on
00:28:35
the cover. The teaser trailer, the blurb.
00:28:37
Oh, dude, the engagement. Where's he going to pick up with
00:28:42
the engagement? I know.
00:28:45
Oh wow. Big stuff.
00:28:47
Big stuff we shall see. You have to wait that way.
00:28:52
All right, next time when we see you on the spot should be pretty
00:28:57
shortly because we're going to record it right after this one,
00:28:59
we're going to bring to you a little little side quest and
00:29:03
it's but it's related to Jack car.
00:29:06
And the last book we did the Savage Sun.
00:29:08
We're going to be talking about a short story that came out
00:29:12
recently, not recently, but when it come out, 90 Min 20s.
00:29:16
So 146, At some point. Yeah, yeah the most dangerous
00:29:21
game. So we really liked, you know one
00:29:25
I really liked how I shouldn't speak for Mike.
00:29:27
But how Jack talked about this in the prologue?
00:29:32
Our authors notes at the beginning and you could really
00:29:35
see the inspiration for it. So I could read it forced me to
00:29:38
go back and read it. And we just we, you know, it'll
00:29:41
be a quick 15, 20 minute pod, just talking about most
00:29:44
dangerous, dangerous game. So yeah, look out for that.
00:29:48
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