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CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction and Series Overview
02:00 Exploring Victor the Assassin
04:47 Action and Espionage Elements
09:55 Character Dynamics and Relationships
13:01 Villains and Plot Development
20:04 Final Thoughts and Scorecard
28:49 Plot Analysis and Cohesion
31:07 Character Development and Intrigue
33:16 Exploring Good and Bad Characters
34:10 Setting and Atmosphere
40:21 Cover Art and Presentation
41:03 Character Backstory and Future Prospects
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Hey guys, I'm balding, Chris. And I'm balding, Mike.
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And welcome back to this week's The Bald Cast.
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How you doing today, Mike? All right, you had to hit me
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with that comment to start us off, but all right, let's let
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that one go. Although if we try to finish
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this series by Tom Wood with all the other series we have going
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on, we might be completely bald by the time we get caught up.
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I, I want you to go back and look at our hairlines from when
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they've tracked up. GPT analyze our hairlines over
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the last six years that. 'D be a funny, a funny thing to
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do. Yeah.
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No, the the killer, Tom Wood. Let's let's kick it off, man.
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This is this is a good one. Something new.
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I feel like in 2025 our shtick was starting debut books and
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Victor of the Assassin series, saying it's right up there with
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Mitch Rapp in his opinion. And we had to jump in one as a
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It was a great recommendation. And I am just curious when a
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fun. Yeah, no, it's, it's this was a
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nice little change up. You know, I we're also in the
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myths of reading a hard copy of Brad and and Ward Larson's cold
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0. And so, you know, wanted had
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time to mix this one in and you know, I'm always excited to
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start a new, you know, new series, debut book from an
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author or debut book in a series.
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And you know, right off the bat you you had kind of said
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something and when you said it, it completely 100% clicked for
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me. This book read like it had that
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Vince Flynn esque. I don't want to say like not
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noir, but just like that Flinnian tone to it.
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Sure. But at the same time, it had a
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lot of elements of the Gray man. So it was like if, if Vince and
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the Gray man, you know, if Mitch and the Gray man had like a
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baby, like and and put it out as as an initial book, this is what
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this book would be. If they had a Russian baby,
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yeah. A Russian baby, Yeah.
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Oh, so this question is he Russian?
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Is he we don't Oh yes, true, he has a good friend in Russia norm
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of which we're going to get into.
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But to give you a little spoiler filled hot take first reaction.
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I'm right with you Chris. It's some parts equally as
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ridiculous and fun as the grey man, like very low
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believability, but then other parts of the wet work and you
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know what an operative is doing and thinking and head on a
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swivel in the streets, always getting the drop on people.
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It's straight up real life MIT trap, like dark, gritty in the
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boots doing the things on the ground.
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It it almost has elements of both of those series, the equal
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parts ridiculous, each apart equal parts real world, real
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operatives, real tactics. So I I don't know what to make
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of this besides I call it perfectly average.
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It's everything you want in a thriller from the amazing set
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action pieces, the really deep nuke on the loose essentially
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plot line. Also some really, I would say, I
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would say really good villains who are also in true Vince Flynn
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style inside of our own government and our own
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intelligence apparatus. So you get a little.
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Bit in a while so it was nice to go back to that.
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It is it is you get you get a little bit of that double agent
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feel, a conspiracy, A cabal. Again, also very Flinnian, very
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Thor. So it's hitting on all of those
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elements and the writing is very, very clean and concise.
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But when you put it all together and you're just working through
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the book, it's average. But it but it's average in a
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really good down home kind of way.
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It's just like what we typically like in a thriller done really
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well. How much of it is super
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memorable? I'm not so sure.
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Does it do enough to make me want to read all whatever 20
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books in the series? Also not so sure.
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But I'm definitely curious to maybe skip around and hear what
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the heavy hitters are later in the series.
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Yeah, average to me almost it's correct, but it it almost sounds
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like a, you know, a dig. I guess a better word would be
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solid. Like it's it's it's a solid
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starting book. You know, I I think it did.
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It definitely did enough for me to make me want to pick up the
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next book. And if it's like all these other
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series where, you know, you get more out of it if you read them
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in in order, but you don't necessarily have to.
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I cut them to an agree. Like I would love if people
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could pick out their top, you know, their memorial days, their
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consent to kill version of whatever this series is, you
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know, give that to me and and let's dive into that.
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You know it. But at the same time, like you
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said, there's nothing that like super, super stuck out to me.
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But it was a fun ride while I was on it.
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You know, I wasn't disappointed. I you know, there's been times
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where I've read books where it's like, why did I read that?
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Definitely did not feel that way for this one at all.
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No, completely, and it's before we get into spoilers, but folks,
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there are a couple of set action pieces that are incredible.
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The one to open this book and then the one to kind of wrap up
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the book, Tanzania. I just think both of those are
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really amazing bookends. And for Tom Wood to come out
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swinging. It's almost as if the scene in
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Consent to Kill where Mitch Rap was at his peak and went ham at
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the house in Leesburg. I think the single scene where
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he killed the most amount of guys, 15 maybe something like
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that, We see Victor the assassin going that nuts right out the
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jump like chapter 1. He's doing some of the most
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insane badass stuff, sniper V sniper outclassing dudes.
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So if that doesn't tease you to know exactly what those two
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scenes are, you need to read them.
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And and I said, I'm not sure what's memorable.
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I think those action pieces would be, I'm already thinking
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to the scorecard. Action is absolutely the
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strength, I would say of this book.
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So those two set action pieces, even a car chase in Tanzania, a
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hand to hand combat, fight in the surf, That was an incredible
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ride. So for all the quibbles I'm
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going to have with some of the plotting, some of the pacing,
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some of the storyline development, I cannot critique
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this for action. I'm just going to say right now
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it's a 10 out of 10 on action. Yeah, I would agree with you on
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that. And I think the other thing that
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highlights well is the espionage bit of it in in terms of the
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plot. Like I feel like Tom Wood does a
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really good job of, you know, adding that Lake Lake Ray esque
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story to Victor. You know, we don't get very much
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of A back story about him. That's that's like the one thing
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that's like kind of lacking in this.
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You know, it's a teaser though. Sure.
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And I feel like, you know, he left that open to not bog down
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the story. The story did not need any more
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in it, you know, but definitely a teaser, you know, obviously,
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hopefully that gets played out through the next couple books or
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through the whole series, whatever.
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But yeah, I felt like his, the way he works and, and and you
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know, all the different espionage pieces, how he's
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operating as a spy and an operator definitely 100% gets
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that correct. Yeah, he's leaving caches and
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places, weapons, passports, documents.
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I I think that's brilliantly done that and they do save his
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bacon a few times. So I think the back story,
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knowing who he is, how we got trained in these skills, we kind
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of see him in the middle of his career.
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You know, he's taking a lot of jobs in the past.
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We know for various people that that were mentioned, he has
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contacts strolling into Saint Petersburg and and and looking
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for dudes that he thought were friends.
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All of those I think are really good teases that you're right.
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I think I I would I would take that back.
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I I think I wouldn't want to read the second.
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I definitely would want to read the second.
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And then after that, maybe skip around, skip around.
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But great series. And there's another thing I have
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to bring up. So we got to drop the spoiler
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warning. So full episode coming full
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spoilers from here on out. The girl I, I really enjoyed the
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broker and what a tease in the first like third.
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We don't know exactly who he's working for.
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He doesn't even know who gave him the contracts.
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It's, it's like a double-blind, you know, he's totally isolated
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from that information. He, he just gets the name goes,
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gets the file, makes the kill, completes the mission.
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And to find out that it's this woman and that they, they have a
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pretty good bond. And when he's teasing her out, I
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just thought their meat was really incredible.
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These two people who have worked so closely, been responsible for
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each other in many ways, like kept each other alive by
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executing missions and communicating them and keeping
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this dance going, actually coming face to face was really
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cool to see it. It almost reminded me of
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something out of like a born and, you know, Oh yeah.
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Trying to get information about who's, who's running you, who's
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working you, who's feeding you Intel and like, put the memories
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together. And he has to test her.
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And, and I think it was really on thin ice when he's like going
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to kill her if she says the wrong thing a couple of times
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she makes the wrong moves. He's like ready to, to end her
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right then and there. And they realize they need each
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other. I I thought their relationship
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developing was a lot of fun and then it ended.
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Yeah, I was really disappointed with that and I first of all,
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it's a bold choice and IA 100% thought, OK, he's setting her up
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like they're going to become a team, like she's going to become
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his Marcus, his Scott Coleman, like she's around, you know,
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whoever you want to say, like future books going forward.
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They fall for each other. Or that, you know, and I
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actually thought that the character development with her,
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like I was buying into her as a as a good character going
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forward. Like I thought, you know, that
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would be a good foil. Obviously she's a good analyst
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operative, you know, not, not quite wet work, but you know,
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can do the computer stuff behind the scenes stuff she's been.
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Making stuff. Yeah, she's able to pose to, you
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know, falsely pose as a bank to get information, like she could
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definitely do grifting and stuff like that.
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And then to get that 100% pulled out from under you with that
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kill, Oh yeah, fuck man. You, you put in all that work
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and then boom, that was like you said, that was, that was a shock
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to me. That was a shock.
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He raised the stakes. Yeah, it was a shock to me.
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And I think it came at a point of the book where I need a
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little wake up call. Another reason is because this
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read character which got to talk about how he's introduced, it's
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a little quibble. Like I I said before, I'm going
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to have, but the fact that we just raised the stakes of now
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it's one it's personal. So thinking Mitch Raffer and
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Stanley never make it personal. It's personal.
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And we learned at the end, right when he finds out this Proctor
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person who he calls the administrator in the hospital is
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going to hire him one of his conditions as he wants to know
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about her and he shares some information about her and he
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says I want everything on her. He wants to kind of honor her
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memory. So it definitely made it
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personal. I also wonder if it's going to
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have an effect downstream in the series of is he going to be a
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different type of killer now? Is it going to almost temper him
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to say there are things in life that might matter more than just
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executing these missions? Like, I thought I found somebody
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who I could trust and. Or does it make him go?
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Yeah. Or does it make him go the other
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way and just go hog and become an even more indiscriminate
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killer? I feel like it might temper him
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a little, but and, and kind of see the humanity in people that
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she might have brought to him. I don't know though.
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So that I, I think both her introduction and her death are
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two things I really liked about the book and that could have
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potential consequences in future books.
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And I think really are going to probably change who he is and be
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part of his arc moving forward. Even though she's gone, I think
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she's going to play an important role in his ARC book 2345.
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Yeah, and I guess it says something to all right, you, you
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maybe set up this plan of like, I, I could completely see that.
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All right, she's in book 2, you know, and then she gets killed
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off in book 3, like, but here he made the choice of like, all
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right, I'm, I'm just going to do it.
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I, I have one shot writing this book.
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Boom. Let's get her out of the way and
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then establish that revenge factor that, you know, like you
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said, turn of conscience, turn of motivation for him.
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Yeah, it was an interesting choice.
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Very bold. Very.
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Bold. I think if that's the good guys,
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though, both Victor and the woman are handled very, very
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well. Curious your thoughts on the bad
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guys, the cabal, whether it's on the inside at the highest level
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like Ferguson and Sykes completely selling out and, you
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know, this old timer spy in Ferguson, but then also the bad
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guys with the the hired guns and particularly Reed because he
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becomes the big bad in the second-half.
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I would say. Were you fully satisfied with
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them and their interactions? No.
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Yeah. For me, I think 1.
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I don't know why we were told that Sykes and Ferguson were the
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bad guys so early. I mean that that's another
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conscious choice. I I felt that that could have
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been dragged out for much longer.
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You know, that could have been the big drop at the end, right?
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So we were let in pretty early, like, you know, we had way more
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knowledge about the story than our protagonist did.
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The other thing is like this read character, you know, it's
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kind of setting it up to be, you know, like a lot of other series
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we've we've dealt with where there's, you know, an equivalent
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assassin that meets his match. Yep, Louis Gould, we're bringing
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in Louis. Sure.
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I felt like the story didn't. It's like one too many things.
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It was. Forced.
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Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, I understand you need to
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have this whole clean up thing, but yeah, kind of bringing it
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back to Bourne, that was a storyline of the second, you
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know, in in Bourne Supremacy, like you're kind of trying to
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put all your baskets into one again.
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Like, hey, I have this one book. I have all these ideas, I'm just
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put them all in again. I don't know the story about
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like how he got into this, you know what Tom Wood did before
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this. But to me, it felt like there
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was a more meat on the bone for a lot of these various
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storylines that you could have fleshed out through the course
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of multiple books. And it just got wrapped up into
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into this one. Yeah.
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I felt like that the Russian connection of it was engaging
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enough in terms of, you know, bringing in this SVR Asian or is
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he SVR or is he I forget which GRE he's he's SVR right I.
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Thought SVR. Yeah.
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You know, bringing him. Him bringing in him his element
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having Spetsnaz, you know, he is trying to rise the ranks.
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He's able to like get his quote UN quote only friend to like
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turn on him. I felt like that was enough, You
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know of a motivation to have you know that and then you didn't
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have to then throw in this older ultimate killer like equivalent
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assassin in in the Reed character.
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Yeah, Reed's introduction just seemed forced.
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And it's almost why I, I kind of go back to perfectly average
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because he's just pulling on so many tropes and the trope of,
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well, I guess we got a call in the big guns and I know a guy
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and he's going to clean up all your mess.
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So it's just like, we've already tried hiring killer after killer
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after killer. Why wasn't this guy just
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assigned the job in the 1st place?
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I, it was almost just too much like I know a guy.
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Let me let me call him my guy with without the back story of
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who is this guy? Why should we trust this guy?
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And then here's the other trope which kind of bothered me to
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establish his bona fides. And I'm kind of sick that I'm of
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seeing this trope everywhere. He's just randomly walking
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through like a gritty part of town and thugs come up on him
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and he he's just got to tell the thugs like today's not your day
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or like, no, you're not going to want to do that bad move and
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then just knock out these thugs. And there's no reason for it.
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It was like a little side scene, whatever It was one of the first
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times we actually see Reed. I I just don't need a guy to be
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established by just some random St. thugs come up to them and he
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just knocks them all out. And the whole purpose to me is
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just to say, see, look, he really is a bad ass.
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We're calling him in because we already know he's a badass.
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Like Ferguson told us that we don't need a random street fight
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that serves no purpose. So just a minor kind of debut
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book. I think Trope that he's leaning
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a little too heavy into occasionally that.
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And he, you know, he perfectly executes these assassinations in
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terms of like, cleaning up the list.
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And then he inevitably, like, you know, does the ultimate sin
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and and doesn't follow up on his mission when he's timed, you
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know, thinks that he kills Victor like.
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Exactly. That to me you're, you're trying
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to have your cake and eat it too.
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You're trying to both have this guy be the ultimate, but then
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but then also at the same time in the same book, he just
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happens to mess up and and not get our killer.
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Amateur move. Yeah, like I don't know that was
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just a little 2 force like that looks.
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I mean sure the explosion scene like at the him rigging the
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thing like was was cool and all but it just it didn't make
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sense. Don't set him up as the guy if
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you're going to have him walk away from that OP and go.
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I'm confident I killed him and meanwhile the guy gets away.
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You're right, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Now what does kind of bring Reed back is his death.
00:18:55
The hand to hand scene after after the craziness of Tanzania
00:18:59
and the car chase. The car chase Insane.
00:19:02
The car chase was wild and really fun As for that to end up
00:19:06
with that hand to hand combat in the surf with the knife and
00:19:10
victor's like using AT shirt wrapped around his forearm to
00:19:12
defend blows over and over and over and this thing's just
00:19:16
getting dragged out. Ultimately gets the drop on him,
00:19:19
kills him right there, gets the knife, the ceramic blade.
00:19:23
I I think Reed's final wrap up was really incredible, but not
00:19:29
much else was handled very well with him.
00:19:34
But but the the flip side is I kind of liked Ferguson and
00:19:37
Sykes. I like this old timey spy who's
00:19:39
selling out. He has his protege who is making
00:19:44
a few missteps. He's got to direct them and keep
00:19:46
them in check and he's freaking out.
00:19:48
And Ferguson is trying to keep this cool head of like being
00:19:51
above all this why he sold out. Maybe we could have put a little
00:19:55
bit more effort into. So while I kind of like them, we
00:19:59
moved away from them in lieu of the Russia plot and the Russia
00:20:02
plot. I actually really liked in the
00:20:05
beginning when Victor has to go meet Normov and ask him for a
00:20:09
favor. And like I'm trying to parse out
00:20:11
if these guys really were friends.
00:20:13
It seems like they're they were business acquaintances.
00:20:16
And so while they trust each other, they don't have that deep
00:20:19
personal kinship with each other.
00:20:22
And that, ultimately, is what screws Victor.
00:20:25
And that, and I really like that the scene where, you know,
00:20:29
Normov is supposed to meet up and give him the goods and
00:20:31
Victor, you know, plans the whole drop, executes it like
00:20:34
executes it perfectly by setting up as a sniper as Overwatch
00:20:37
sees, you know, as Overwatch sees people there.
00:20:39
It's that's very boring. He knows he sold them out.
00:20:41
Yeah, it's great. Straight scene out of out of one
00:20:44
of the Bourne movies. You know, we have that it's
00:20:49
great. And then it kind of like just it
00:20:51
was also kind of like this comedy of errors where just so
00:20:55
happens this best notch show up at the same they are all staying
00:20:58
at the same hotel. And we get this like kick off
00:21:00
of, you know, we have that we have these other corrupt former
00:21:03
Seals. We have Sykes is there.
00:21:05
We have the Alvarez that the guy who's investigating shows up.
00:21:09
Like, yeah, like all that stuff was like cool.
00:21:12
Like, in terms of like the culmination of like the action
00:21:15
and then leading into the car chase, but it got to be just
00:21:19
like a little too much. It was too much and that's when
00:21:22
we're starting to muddy the waters.
00:21:23
So all the introduction, the Russia stuff was good.
00:21:26
His escape ultimately after he realizes Normov sold him out,
00:21:29
turned on him. Also pretty good how they all
00:21:32
end up in Tanzania where Sykes just all of a sudden like gets,
00:21:36
I'm just going to call them nukes.
00:21:37
Get gets the missiles and like has this Intel is loading him on
00:21:40
a truck. Wait, someone's there to stop
00:21:43
him. A team of Russians oh wait,
00:21:45
Alvarez is on their trail. Alvarez has to fight a dude and
00:21:48
so the trucks getting away Alvarez fighting a guy.
00:21:50
Meanwhile victor and Reed are both behind the tailing it out
00:21:53
of there fighting each other with a chase.
00:21:56
It was like a really cool, non-stop edge of your seat
00:21:59
scene, but it's almost like, why are all these people here?
00:22:03
And like there's there's too many cooks in the kitchen.
00:22:05
So it went a little off the rails.
00:22:07
But as just a pure thrill ride it it it checked every box.
00:22:11
So that's one of those things action.
00:22:13
I'm going very, very high, but plot and buy in.
00:22:16
I have to be like, is this just a little too much?
00:22:19
Is a little too over the top? Yeah, no, I agree.
00:22:23
And I don't know, for some reason the the Ferguson and
00:22:26
Psych stuff just didn't. Didn't land.
00:22:29
Didn't land for me. I I don't know, maybe if it's
00:22:31
like I wanted more of that. I like I wanted to be more in
00:22:34
their head and you have them driving it a little bit more,
00:22:38
you know, and maybe as a consequence of getting these,
00:22:40
you know, we get both the Russian plot and their plot.
00:22:43
You know, if we picked one or the other, maybe one of them
00:22:47
would have would have risen at the top and and it would have
00:22:49
been better. And then just to have, you know,
00:22:55
like the this this guy, I don't know, their relationship was
00:22:58
just like also super weird, like the Sykes and Ferguson of it
00:23:01
all, this trust fund kid who he's really just in it for the
00:23:04
money. Whereas the other guy has his
00:23:05
deep rooted, you know, hatred of, you know, being essentially
00:23:11
believing he was scorned and and turned on by his country, which
00:23:15
is believable, sure. But, you know, then the fact
00:23:20
that the other guy wants to, you know, doesn't want the nukes
00:23:22
being sold to North Korea, like, you know, but in the end, he
00:23:25
ultimately goes with it because he knows he's either going to
00:23:27
get killed or he gets the money. So it's the highest bidder.
00:23:30
Yeah. See, I'm OK with it in that that
00:23:35
career civil servant bureaucrat, you know, basically the foot
00:23:39
soldier all of a sudden has this like harbored, has harbored this
00:23:45
resentment for so long. And so takes this dramatic step
00:23:48
of like, I can go out with a bang.
00:23:50
I can get the Pi can get people back for what they did to me.
00:23:53
Kind of just like bitter old timey person.
00:23:56
And I feel like I've seen so many stories of that in the Cold
00:23:59
War with like a random white dude who worked for whatever
00:24:03
government agency just start selling things to the Cubans.
00:24:06
And it's like, why on earth are you the person who is selling
00:24:11
things to the Cubans? And it's like they had the
00:24:13
secret passionate zeal for Viva la Revolution or something, but
00:24:17
they everyday put on their suit and tie, went to work, collected
00:24:20
the intelligence, did the thing. And but they're secretly holding
00:24:23
on to this world where they just want revenge or they want to
00:24:25
change the world. So I, I guess we could have
00:24:28
gotten more into Ferguson's psyche of what what led him
00:24:30
there, but also an opportunity for the future, perhaps some
00:24:34
sort of back story, Victor's origin, Ferguson and his, you
00:24:40
know, problems that he has with his government.
00:24:43
Yeah, it's, it's almost half. It's at the same time it's half
00:24:47
baked, right. But it's also half baked because
00:24:49
we stuffed the oven with, you know, too many things for the
00:24:52
Thanksgiving meal. You're trying to put the Turkey
00:24:54
into the stuffing and the sweet potatoes and you're trying to
00:24:57
put it all in the oven at once. And it's like, OK, because that
00:25:00
the temperature is so diluted and everything's kind of
00:25:02
lukewarm again. That's why I come back to
00:25:05
perfectly average. Not in a very bad way, not in a
00:25:08
Ding kind of way. But you're doing everything
00:25:11
right that kind of thrillers should do, but you're almost
00:25:16
just checking boxes by doing them and making them
00:25:18
entertaining because you're a really good writer.
00:25:21
But are you a really honed in storyteller?
00:25:24
And that I don't think I see Tom Wood getting there yet.
00:25:28
And that's probably the clearest thing about this being a debut
00:25:31
book. It's not a debut book because
00:25:32
you write scenes that are confusing.
00:25:34
It's not a debut book because you write storylines that have
00:25:38
no impact. And I don't care about.
00:25:40
It's just that you're trying to do all the things you probably
00:25:42
think you're supposed to in a first book and then in a in a
00:25:45
thriller book. And it's like, well, maybe pick
00:25:47
and choose or just lean into the ones that you're passionate
00:25:50
about or, or find the ones that are going to be unique to your
00:25:52
voice. I don't know if this book
00:25:54
establishes a Tom Wood voice for me or a Victor the.
00:25:57
Assassin voice So it's it's it's like there's too much meat and
00:26:03
sausage, you know, like you're trying to stuff too much in the
00:26:05
casing and this and I I feel like we've read books like this
00:26:11
where they do the same thing, but because the writing isn't as
00:26:15
good it's even like it's that much worse.
00:26:17
It's worse, you know, like this book is saved by how well it's
00:26:21
written and how well it, you know, comes through to us.
00:26:25
It's not confusing in that sense, but it could have could
00:26:30
have done with like a little bit of editing in terms of all
00:26:32
right, let's let's pick and choose and then let's highlight
00:26:36
those a little bit more and then and then maybe those things
00:26:38
would sink so. Yeah, little less is more and
00:26:42
and then on top. Less is more, yeah.
00:26:43
We need to talk about these missiles, which apparently the
00:26:46
Russians have this really incredible technology and are
00:26:49
way ahead of us. And these missiles could wipe
00:26:51
out our fleet without us being able to defend ourselves.
00:26:55
Almost read to me like a nuke on the loose.
00:26:57
Let's just go find them again. A little trophy.
00:27:01
So maybe that works for some people.
00:27:05
Didn't quite work for me. So again, that's a kind of a
00:27:07
plot miss, if you will. It became a Side Story.
00:27:10
Like once he's digging up these missiles out of the ocean, it's
00:27:12
like, oh, kind of forgot. That was the whole purpose of
00:27:15
right, Everything like the flash drive, I forgot, I forgot.
00:27:18
That was kind of the whole purpose, the flash.
00:27:19
Drive. Was the flash drive even meant?
00:27:21
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that that almost got
00:27:23
lost in the sauce. So, anything else on your mind
00:27:28
before we scorecard this one? No, I think let's let's get in
00:27:32
the scorecard, man. I gave my action, so I guess I
00:27:37
just have to hear from you. You agree?
00:27:38
I I think I'd be OK with a nine as well.
00:27:41
I think I'm going to go nine. Yeah.
00:27:43
I'll leave a little bit of room for let's, let's see what Tom
00:27:46
Wood maybe can do blow me away with some action in the future.
00:27:50
Like, you know, it's very good. This is definitely like the
00:27:53
highlight of the book. And like you said, the thing
00:27:57
that sticks out to me that's most memorable that I remember
00:28:00
is definitely the open set piece in terms of like just
00:28:04
establishing Victoria, you know, Victor, how he's going to
00:28:07
operate, what he can do. And then, you know, getting
00:28:10
these various, you know, set action pieces throughout and
00:28:13
then culminating with that hand to hand combat at the very end,
00:28:16
like lights out. Completely agree, I think the
00:28:20
one reason I'm also going to stick with the 10 out of 10 is I
00:28:23
forgot the Swiss chalet. We kind of also got to see his
00:28:27
abode where he kind of can hang out, decompress.
00:28:31
I even forgot about that. You throw in this other sniper.
00:28:34
Yeah, exactly. Yet another sniper after he just
00:28:37
took out the previous sniper at the the French Hotel.
00:28:40
So I really like how often sniping comes up.
00:28:43
And then the Dragunov and in Russia more, another sniping
00:28:48
scene. I really like you.
00:28:50
Didn't need read. You didn't need read.
00:28:52
Because that one, you still don't need read and two, maybe
00:28:54
you cut the Swiss part. As much as I liked it, it was
00:28:58
cool. You either cut that or you cut
00:29:00
one of the other things. It just added too much like I
00:29:02
forgot it happened, but when it was happening, that was also a
00:29:06
lot of fun to read. So I think I think for action,
00:29:09
I'm going to stay with 10 out of 10 because I like that.
00:29:11
I thought it was good when it comes to the pacing of these
00:29:13
things. A little too jam packed the by
00:29:17
and well, let's start with plot. Because plot is also pacing.
00:29:20
There's almost too many of them happening.
00:29:22
I like each individual 1. I don't know if I see the
00:29:24
through line all that much. And again, I don't like how it's
00:29:29
just grounded in somebody wants to recover missiles and sell
00:29:31
them. It just seemed like too easy of
00:29:34
a storyline to put together and I wasn't born into that part of
00:29:39
it. So plot is 6.
00:29:43
Too harsh because I'm kind of leaning towards it.
00:29:47
That's a little hard. I was going to go 7 but I made
00:29:50
it up. Seven, I made it up.
00:29:51
Yeah, you, I mean, essentially we're the same, right?
00:29:53
I'm, I'm, you know, so 9:00 and 7:10 and 6:00, it's the same,
00:29:57
same score. But yeah, I could.
00:29:58
See either way. It's right there.
00:30:00
So I think for buy in, excuse me, I don't know.
00:30:07
I think it's like a, you know, average is like a perfect three,
00:30:10
like a perfect three. It's exactly it's.
00:30:12
It'll be a 2 1/2 if. You want to go real average.
00:30:15
Sure, if you want to go real, be truly precise, but like you
00:30:18
know, it's it did enough for me that, like again, I'm bought
00:30:22
into wanting to know more about Victor.
00:30:24
I want to read more books, but in terms of truly getting me
00:30:28
sold on like this story being invested in like these nukes and
00:30:35
you know, these various different bunch of different
00:30:38
plots, you know, just the the cohesion there wasn't wasn't the
00:30:43
cohesion wasn't there. Yeah, yeah, I'll agree.
00:30:47
I'll round up two or three because of the broker.
00:30:50
I'm interested in the back story.
00:30:52
I was interested in her and their meet up.
00:30:55
So I think those little bits and pieces about Victor and his
00:30:59
life, the Swiss chalet, you know, I want to know like, and
00:31:04
how he got that, how he set up. I want to know how he became an
00:31:06
assassin, like right. I want the American assassin of
00:31:09
Victor, which is funny because there was a bad.
00:31:11
There's a bad victor I know. Every time I heard the name I
00:31:14
kept thinking about that. Because I liked him so much in
00:31:17
those elements of him, I'm going to round up two or three.
00:31:21
So I'm with you. This is all rolled into good
00:31:25
guys and bad guys. We're a little higher on good
00:31:27
guys. We're a little hot lower it
00:31:28
seems on bad guys. Where are you going to settle on
00:31:31
those two? I think for good guys, do I go
00:31:35
5? Is that too high?
00:31:36
Like maybe, maybe just like action and suspense, I should
00:31:41
leave a little bit of room for, for improvement.
00:31:44
But I thought that one, it's it, it sets up Victor very well.
00:31:46
I'm super intrigued by him. And I really like the girl.
00:31:50
I I like the broker, Yeah. So can maybe the deciding factor
00:31:54
because I'm also leaning to a round of 4.
00:31:56
The deciding factor if I go up or down might be how do you
00:31:59
think of Chambers and Proctor and Alvarez were handled like
00:32:04
Chambers is the woman. Yeah, kind of mid level manager.
00:32:07
Proctor's the top dog aiming to be even higher top dog taking
00:32:11
over CIA. We kind of learned in the very
00:32:13
end that he's actually a very self absorbed kind of power
00:32:18
hungry asshole. So that's like a little, that's
00:32:21
a little one of those also. Oh, got you for the next book.
00:32:24
And then all along, Alvarez is like the good guy trying to
00:32:28
figure things out, but we're not sure if he was the good guy in
00:32:31
the beginning. But ultimately we we come to
00:32:33
learn he's actually trying to get on the heels of this cabal.
00:32:37
Yeah, I I guess those 3 for me are the difference between A4
00:32:41
going up or A4 going down. Now, now that now that you bring
00:32:45
those in for sure Proctor, I don't, I don't.
00:32:48
I don't fully trust Proctor. Oh no, you can't.
00:32:51
Completely Alvarez. I liked like I thought like, you
00:32:55
know, but could you have cut him out the story?
00:32:58
You could have and it didn't make a difference.
00:33:01
He could have been gone completely and it might have
00:33:02
made it a better both. That's a problem.
00:33:05
It it is a problem? Yeah, no, you're right.
00:33:08
It's a four. It's 4, Santa 4.
00:33:11
It's four could be flirting with a 3 1/2, but all.
00:33:16
Right, Three and a. You want a three and a.
00:33:18
Half. Yeah, give me a 3 1/2.
00:33:19
Yeah, all. Right.
00:33:20
What about bad guys? Bad guys.
00:33:21
I'll go, I'll go. Same.
00:33:23
I'll go. No, no, I got to go.
00:33:25
Three. Yeah, I I'm not read read.
00:33:29
I didn't like it all. The thing is, I liked Ferguson
00:33:31
and Sykes a little more than you, but I I can't go any
00:33:34
higher, so 3. Yeah, like, it's, I like the
00:33:39
concept of Reed. Like, I like this idea of this
00:33:42
ultimate assassin. But then in the end, like, you
00:33:45
know, he was kind of like a roller coaster with Reed.
00:33:47
I I was enjoying like while he was taking out these other
00:33:49
people, you know, didn't like the fact that he, you know,
00:33:53
fucked up and and and and let him live like Victor live with
00:33:56
this, like, you know, stupid plot.
00:33:59
But then like coming back with the car chase and and the action
00:34:01
see his death, the band like kind of saved that.
00:34:04
So sure, yeah, 3. It's a three yeah setting man,
00:34:12
we were doing some. Blow trotting.
00:34:14
We were doing some Brad Thorne style travelling heavy.
00:34:19
Did I like that? Yeah, it was OK.
00:34:21
I think the the original European stuff definitely felt
00:34:24
like, oh, we're doing something familiar almost in a comforting
00:34:28
way of like, oh, this series isn't going to be something
00:34:30
totally out there. A swing and a miss, you know,
00:34:33
miss the mark. No, it was like, OK, this is
00:34:35
like one of the classic spy thrillers I've read before.
00:34:39
We're going to Paris, across the border to Germany and
00:34:42
Switzerland. And I, I thought that part of it
00:34:45
was a lot of fun. Russia, I thought, was handled.
00:34:47
Well too. The way the building is
00:34:50
described Normov's like complex and how he gets into it.
00:34:53
And then not to mention the bar fight dude when he when he asked
00:34:58
for Normov at the bar and these two like thugs corner him and he
00:35:02
puts a knife through one of their ears in the bar and then
00:35:06
wants to light him on fire pouring vodka on him like and
00:35:09
this dude's ear is pinned to the bar.
00:35:11
Lights the vodka like. Holds him down there until like
00:35:14
he. Yeah.
00:35:15
Wild. I thought that was fun and it
00:35:17
felt very Russian, a lot of that, so good, not great.
00:35:25
Tanzania then was also good, not great.
00:35:29
But if you know what, here's what I think he gets credit for.
00:35:32
I felt the shift. We were no longer in Europe, we
00:35:34
were no longer in Russia. Tanzania felt like Tanzania at
00:35:38
one point. We went through the markets of
00:35:39
the car chase, went through a marketplace and I felt that.
00:35:43
So there was a market shift that made me feel like a cold Siberia
00:35:48
down to tropical East Africa. So I, I think that that's some
00:35:53
kudos right there. I I'm going to go 4.
00:35:56
Yeah, no, I was going to say the same thing.
00:35:57
I think like the I, I felt like I was in the Europe's over and
00:36:03
I, you know, felt transported to Russia and then it ultimately
00:36:05
felt and and, you know, even when we were back, like
00:36:08
stateside, like I, I felt that tonal shift.
00:36:10
So yeah, it's it's a four. Yeah.
00:36:18
Covers. I haven't seen any other
00:36:20
alternate colors but I covers. But I do know the British
00:36:25
publication calls this the hunter, not even the killer.
00:36:28
So I'm I'm assuming they're also going to have their different
00:36:30
cover because we know how the Brits do covers.
00:36:35
All right, let's let me pull this up on Goodreads, because
00:36:39
you're missing. Let's do some Goodreads show all
00:36:42
48 editions. OK, I'm definitely seeing 2 main
00:36:44
editions with two very different color schemes.
00:36:49
Oh, and then they even have a Cover C.
00:36:51
All right, it's going to be interesting.
00:36:53
This is feeling like Mitch rap with an AAB and a Cover C.
00:37:03
Which one did you have by the way?
00:37:05
Well, I guess we both did the audio book.
00:37:07
It had the red one. Yeah.
00:37:11
Might have even had a different red one than this.
00:37:14
Yeah, we had like the audible audio version with the guy
00:37:19
looking through a right a skull. Looking down the site, Yep all.
00:37:24
Right. I see.
00:37:25
I see a lot of different ones. OK.
00:37:27
Let's go with the blue. We'll call the blue one.
00:37:31
I'm guessing I don't know which one's English, which one's
00:37:33
American. We'll go the blue one, the red
00:37:36
one. You know which one Cover C is
00:37:38
right? That that German one.
00:37:42
The guy running in the fields. Exactly.
00:37:44
Running in the fields. It's a typical cover C for our
00:37:47
old Mitch rap pod listeners among us.
00:37:50
You know, I really like the one that's like, I'm seeing it most
00:37:53
often. It's the, you know, floor of the
00:37:55
CIA with the target. I like that one, Tom.
00:38:00
Probably the best one. Henschelwood is that?
00:38:02
Is that like his full name? I thought it was Tom Wood.
00:38:05
Where do you see that? Says The Killer by Tom
00:38:09
Henschelwood. Oh I'm not saying that
00:38:12
interesting, maybe it is. That's definitely the best 1
00:38:18
though, and that's similar to the audible 1.
00:38:20
So I think this plus the audio one are in in the same vein with
00:38:24
the crosshairs running across the seal.
00:38:28
I mean, they're in Paris like a little bit like the fact that
00:38:31
like the other one has Paris, the descend, the guy's like
00:38:35
lower face. It's all right.
00:38:39
A bit of a face problem, or dare I say it, a jaw problem.
00:38:42
Excuse me? A chiseled jaw.
00:38:43
Chiseled jaw problem. Oh, code name Tesseract.
00:38:49
That's another. Tesseract.
00:38:51
Yep, Yep. I'm.
00:38:55
I can only give credit to that. It has Paris because that played
00:38:58
a really important role in the opening scene.
00:39:02
I I don't like how the blue cover, blue and yellow is laid
00:39:05
out. The face at the top, Paris on
00:39:06
the bottom. It's got to be the British one.
00:39:09
It has to be. It's so bad.
00:39:11
There's this interesting one where it's just a feather with
00:39:14
blood. I'm seeing the feather one.
00:39:15
Oh yeah, maybe that's like what, D?
00:39:18
What's the feather? I don't know the significance of
00:39:21
the feather and the feathers on ice, so maybe something in
00:39:24
Russia? Bloody feather.
00:39:27
They set him up, he'll make them pay a Victor, A Victor novel.
00:39:31
I like that. I like that they call it like a
00:39:32
Victor novel. No, I like the that it's known
00:39:35
as the Victor the Assassin series.
00:39:37
I think that's, that's a pretty cool tag line.
00:39:40
Victor the Assassin. Yeah, the feather one I think is
00:39:43
cool, very artsy. It actually could be a really
00:39:46
good cover to sell in a bookstore.
00:39:48
But we just don't get it. I.
00:39:50
Really don't get it. Pagala, Palga.
00:39:53
Morev, that's like a It's like a guy in the rain about to execute
00:39:59
somebody. A bald guy.
00:40:03
You see that one? No, let me keep looking.
00:40:06
But cover. See the guy just running through
00:40:09
a field of rain is is ridiculous.
00:40:11
It's utterly ridiculous. Like it's a zero.
00:40:14
I'm I award you no points and May God have mercy on your soul.
00:40:21
Yeah. I don't know if I want to go
00:40:22
down this rabbit hole. Where do we end up with this?
00:40:26
It's a little much. It's a little much.
00:40:27
I think it's a three, you know, it's a 3.
00:40:29
It's a solid like the, the main cover with, excuse me, the
00:40:34
audible or the other, you know, hardback paperback that has the
00:40:38
red scheme with the CIA cross crosshairs.
00:40:41
That one's cool. So I I you throw in the mix with
00:40:45
some bad ones, I think it's a solid 3.
00:40:47
Yeah, I mean, that is a good cover.
00:40:49
And the rest are so atrocious. I got to go 2 1/2.
00:40:52
Let me steal back that other half a point.
00:40:55
Oh, OK, still the other point. OK, all right.
00:41:01
Who's your free space? Oh man, couple of ways you can
00:41:07
go. It's going to sound a little
00:41:12
cheap, but my free space is kind of what's not addressed, which
00:41:16
is I don't know if I would have been interested in the series if
00:41:21
I had gotten more back story. I'm Victor.
00:41:23
If I already knew who he was, where he came from.
00:41:25
I I probably. Wouldn't like the entry.
00:41:27
Yeah, exactly. What jobs he's taking, what jobs
00:41:29
the broker has given him. So I his relationship with
00:41:32
Normov went out when he was encountering him, I was like,
00:41:34
yeah, was this dude going to massacre him?
00:41:36
And then the hell, you know that typical like movie scene where
00:41:39
the 2 two people meet, stare each other down and then all of
00:41:42
a sudden break out into a big grin and a bear hug?
00:41:45
I almost felt that way with him and Normov.
00:41:47
So all those little Nuggets I'm I'm curious about.
00:41:50
So I would say the shout is Tom Wood leaving us enough teasers,
00:41:54
getting me really interested in knowing who this character is,
00:41:58
what his life's been about. Yeah, initially I was going to
00:42:02
say like, like my my favorite scene is, is probably that
00:42:05
normal of scene where they're meeting and like you, you don't
00:42:07
quite know what's going to happen.
00:42:10
Like that, that that one has like the most.
00:42:12
Who was this guy? Obviously he knows him.
00:42:14
Is it his friend ultimately find out that he turns on him?
00:42:19
If I had to then go back to like other characters that sticked
00:42:23
out to me, really it's the broker, like, you know, and
00:42:26
having that bold choice of of killing her off after doing a
00:42:30
lot of work to set her up like is kind of crazy.
00:42:34
I I thought for sure she's like, she's a character to come, you
00:42:37
know, whether or not he, you know, begins to engage in a, a
00:42:40
relationship with her, maybe not Bold, bold, bold choice.
00:42:45
We'll have to see. Like, you know, is that, like
00:42:48
you said, is that a driving passion for him?
00:42:50
Is that, you know, a source of vengeance and how he's going to
00:42:54
act moving forward? You know, we'll have to see so.
00:42:58
Yeah, completely agree. Completely agree.
00:43:04
Well, Adam, we did that one for you, had a great time, was well
00:43:06
worth it. I don't know when we'll schedule
00:43:08
Book 2, but something I'd be willing to come back to after us
00:43:12
saying in 2025 we started too many new debut series and this
00:43:15
year we wouldn't do that. I'm glad it was this one that we
00:43:18
gave a try. Yeah, for sure.
00:43:20
For you, Adam. We do it for you.
00:43:21
For you. All right, So what do you got?
00:43:25
What does this end up with? I have a 38 higher than I
00:43:32
thought it was going to be. Do you have a 37?
00:43:35
Can you check the math for me, Mr. Doctor Chris?
00:43:39
Half higher than you One. No one Lower than you 2.
00:43:44
Lower than you? My 36 or 37?
00:43:47
You're 37. Oh, and then nine, you sure
00:43:50
about that? OK, 37 and 38, that's a little
00:43:54
higher than I thought it would be.
00:43:56
And I think we we found some of the positives so satisfactory,
00:44:02
perfectly average. Yeah, I think I was expecting it
00:44:07
to be like right around that 35, you know, like the 3435 range.
00:44:10
So, you know, found found a couple more bonuses in there.
00:44:14
Yeah, considering we're coming off a dead ringer, which we also
00:44:16
gave, you know, mid 30 scores to, yet at the same time I've
00:44:20
been recommending it to people. Yeah, sure.
00:44:22
I was really proud and happy. To I would recommend this book
00:44:24
to people too. Yeah, I'd recommend this one
00:44:26
too. Yeah, I think these two are
00:44:28
great examples of books in the mid 30s that aren't perfect,
00:44:32
that are not going to be instant classics, that won't be the most
00:44:34
memorable, but damn, they are worth your read.
00:44:37
They're worth the 20 bucks or whatever for sure.
00:44:41
Yeah, 100% agree. All right, Mike, what are we
00:44:46
covering next time? Well, you said in the beginning
00:44:49
Cold 0 is next on our to be read list.
00:44:51
So the Brad Thor, Ward, Larson team up.
00:44:55
Always fun to talk to both of those guys.
00:44:57
Been a while since we talked to Ward and another trend for 2026
00:45:02
on the Co authorship game. We did Andrews and Wilson.
00:45:06
We talked about Jack Carr and MP Woodward and their book The
00:45:09
Fourth Option coming up. So it's just the year of
00:45:12
co-authored books. So we get yet another duo little
00:45:16
tag team to interview and hear about how the process went.
00:45:20
And this one's going to be turned into a Series, A movie.
00:45:24
This is another one that they're talking film and we know Brad's
00:45:28
also doing. Isn't he also doing a Scott
00:45:30
Harvath though? I thought that was in the works,
00:45:32
yeah. Yeah, I thought that was in the
00:45:34
work. And then they come out and say
00:45:35
this one's going to be a film. I I don't know, I think that's
00:45:40
something I'm still wondering about.
00:45:41
So. All right, well.
00:45:44
We'll see. You'll hear our interview with
00:45:46
them and then you'll hear our our breakdown of the book once.
00:45:50
So go out, pre-order that. Make sure you get it.
00:45:54
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00:45:57
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00:46:01
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00:46:06
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00:46:29
Ball guys and the limericks. Oh, let's hear it.
00:46:32
Let's hear Mike. Before you sign us off, let me
00:46:35
hit you with this one. Victor, the assassin that is.
00:46:39
His trade in shadows and aliases carefully played with a shot
00:46:44
clean and fast, targets vanished, outclassed.
00:46:48
A debut book, his skills on full display.
00:46:51
Boom baby, that's a good one. Thank you, Sir.
00:46:55
Solid. I should say that one is solid.
00:46:58
Perfectly average. Perfectly average.
00:47:01
Like our airline for late 30s. Fun times, fun times.
00:47:10
All right, you want to play us off?
00:47:14
Well, just like always, let Victor.
00:47:17
Be Victor.